From: Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>
To: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
Michal Simek <michal.simek@amd.com>,
Kris Chaplin <kris.chaplin@amd.com>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Reg the next LTS kernel (6.1?)
Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2023 09:47:19 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230114084719.GA6057@1wt.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y8JnHyKNTHMjsHSb@kroah.com>
On Sat, Jan 14, 2023 at 09:26:07AM +0100, Greg KH wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 14, 2023 at 08:14:12AM +0100, Willy Tarreau wrote:
> > On Fri, Jan 13, 2023 at 04:40:19PM -0500, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> > > On Fri, Jan 13, 2023 at 05:22:56PM +0100, Greg KH wrote:
> > > > > I am just saying that developers/driver owners can simple do calculation to
> > > > > identify LTS version. When they know it they also know time when their
> > > > > deadline is for upstreaming work. It means if patch is accepted between
> > > > > 6.0-r1 and 6.0-rc5/6 they know that it will get to 6.1 merge window.
> > > >
> > > > That is what I am afraid of and if it causes problems I will purposfully
> > > > pick the previous release. This has happened in the past and is never
> > > > an excuse to get anything merged. Code gets merged when it is ready,
> > > > not based on a LTS release.
> > >
> > > This is probably the best reason not to preannounce when the LTS
> > > release will be ahead of time --- because it can be abused by
> > > developers who try to get not-ready-for-prime-time features into what
> > > they think will be the LTS kernel, with the result that the last
> > > release of the year could be utterly unsitable for that perpose.
> >
> > We know this risk exists but since Greg never makes promises on any
> > version, it remains reasonable.
>
> I have to _not_ make promises because in the past when I did, people
> threw crap into the kernel with the "justification" that they had to get
> it in this specific kernel because it was going to be the LTS one.
>
> We can't have nice things, because people abuse it :(
Absolutely, that was exactly my point :-)
And quite frankly it's better the current way, because you have the
flexibility to change your mind on a given version if during the first
months you discover it's too crappy and will be a maintenance nightmare.
Willy
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-01-14 8:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-10-07 7:37 Reg the next LTS kernel (6.1?) Kaiwan N Billimoria
2022-10-07 7:46 ` Greg KH
2022-10-07 7:50 ` Kaiwan N Billimoria
2022-12-17 13:02 ` Kaiwan N Billimoria
2022-12-17 13:18 ` Greg KH
2022-12-17 13:44 ` Kaiwan N Billimoria
2022-12-17 16:40 ` Willy Tarreau
2022-12-20 1:45 ` Kaiwan N Billimoria
2022-12-18 8:42 ` Greg KH
2023-01-11 8:15 ` Conor Dooley
2023-01-11 11:33 ` Greg KH
2023-01-11 19:05 ` Conor Dooley
2023-01-12 12:23 ` Kris Chaplin
2023-01-12 12:26 ` Michal Simek
2023-01-13 11:27 ` Greg KH
2023-01-13 12:54 ` Michal Simek
2023-01-13 16:22 ` Greg KH
2023-01-13 21:40 ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-01-14 7:14 ` Willy Tarreau
2023-01-14 8:26 ` Greg KH
2023-01-14 8:47 ` Willy Tarreau [this message]
2023-02-05 6:27 ` Ruslan Bilovol
2023-02-16 10:41 ` Kris Chaplin
2023-02-16 11:20 ` Greg KH
2023-02-16 11:23 ` Kris Chaplin
2023-01-16 12:16 ` Michal Simek
2023-01-17 3:07 ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-01-16 12:02 ` Michal Simek
2023-01-13 11:24 ` Greg KH
2022-10-07 15:04 Carl Dasantas
2022-10-07 15:36 ` Greg KH
2022-10-07 16:07 ` Carl Dasantas
2022-10-07 16:34 ` Greg KH
2022-10-07 19:50 ` Theodore Ts'o
2022-10-07 17:37 ` Slade Watkins
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