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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: "Christoph Hellwig" <hch@lst.de>,
	Prabhakar <prabhakar.csengg@gmail.com>,
	"Conor.Dooley" <conor.dooley@microchip.com>,
	"Geert Uytterhoeven" <geert+renesas@glider.be>,
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	"Tsukasa OI" <research_trasio@irq.a4lg.com>,
	"Jisheng Zhang" <jszhang@kernel.org>,
	"Mayuresh Chitale" <mchitale@ventanamicro.com>,
	"Will Deacon" <will@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v6 1/6] riscv: mm: dma-noncoherent: Switch using function pointers for cache management
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2023 08:27:59 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230122072759.GA3703@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6a64b0b5-0ebc-43a5-a3d8-483a845a0b5e@app.fastmail.com>

On Sat, Jan 21, 2023 at 08:30:23PM +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > That feels really odd, and might be worth a bug report to the
> > PPC maintainers.
> 
> Right, my first step would be to change all of the current
> outliers to use the same set of operations where possible.

Sounds good.

> > I'd rather avoid multiple callbacks if we can.  But maybe solve
> > the simple problem first and just pass the paddr and then
> > iterate from there.
> 
> Ok, fair enough. This means we can't easily put the kmap_atomic()
> into common code for highmem, though the per-page loop would
> still work.

Yes.  Given how messy many of the ops are I think one step at a time
is always good.

> I was thinking of using STATIC_CALL() as an optimization here, which
> I find easier to read and understand than alternatives. One advantage
> here is that this allows the actual cache operations to be declared
> locally in the architecture without letting drivers call them,
> but still update the common code to work without indirect branches.
> 
> The main downside is that this is currently only optimized on
> powerpc and x86, both of which don't actually need CPU specific
> callbacks. ARC, ARM, and MIPS on the other hand already
> have indirect function pointers, RISC-V would likely benefit the
> most from either alternatives or static_call, as it already
> uses alternatives and has one implementation that is clearly
> preferred over the others.

For now I'd just keep doing direct calls into the arch code, just
for the lower level invalidate, writeback, invalidate+writeback
calls as that helps cementinc the logic of which of those to use
in well documented core code.

And I'm not really sure I'd like to go beyond that - making it too
easy pluggable will make people feel more comfortable doing stupid
things here.  And yes, maybe that's personal because I've warned
the RISC-V people years ago that they'll need architectural
cache management instructions yesterday and the answer was that
no one is going to use them on modern CPUs.  *sigh*

  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-22  7:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-06 18:55 [PATCH v6 0/6] RISC-V non-coherent function pointer based cache management operations + non-coherent DMA support for AX45MP Prabhakar
2023-01-06 18:55 ` [RFC PATCH v6 1/6] riscv: mm: dma-noncoherent: Switch using function pointers for cache management Prabhakar
2023-01-06 22:31   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-06 23:29     ` Conor Dooley
2023-01-07 21:52       ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-07 22:21         ` Conor Dooley
2023-01-08 16:37           ` Conor Dooley
2023-01-07 22:10     ` Lad, Prabhakar
2023-01-08  0:07       ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-09 12:03         ` Lad, Prabhakar
2023-01-09 12:59           ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-09 13:27             ` Conor Dooley
2023-01-10  7:01             ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-10 15:03               ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-10 15:11                 ` Will Deacon
2023-01-13  5:48                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-20 17:04                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-21 14:37                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-21 19:30                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-22  7:27                         ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2023-01-22 11:04                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-23 14:46                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-06 23:47   ` Conor Dooley
2023-01-07 22:36     ` Lad, Prabhakar
2023-01-06 18:55 ` [PATCH v6 2/6] riscv: asm: vendorid_list: Add Andes Technology to the vendors list Prabhakar
2023-01-06 18:55 ` [PATCH v6 3/6] riscv: errata: Add Andes alternative ports Prabhakar
2023-01-06 21:44   ` Conor Dooley
2023-01-06 18:55 ` [PATCH v6 4/6] dt-bindings: cache: r9a07g043f-l2-cache: Add DT binding documentation for L2 cache controller Prabhakar
2023-01-06 21:53   ` Conor Dooley
2023-01-07 20:43     ` Lad, Prabhakar
2023-01-09 12:15       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-01-09 13:14         ` Lad, Prabhakar
2023-01-06 18:55 ` [PATCH v6 5/6] cache: Add L2 cache management for Andes AX45MP RISC-V core Prabhakar
2023-01-07  0:09   ` Conor Dooley
2023-01-07 20:49     ` Lad, Prabhakar
2023-01-06 18:55 ` [PATCH v6 6/6] soc: renesas: Kconfig: Select the required configs for RZ/Five SoC Prabhakar
2023-01-06 23:49   ` Conor Dooley

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