From: "Stamatis, Ilias" <ilstam@amazon.com>
To: "seanjc@google.com" <seanjc@google.com>
Cc: "kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"jmattson@google.com" <jmattson@google.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 09/12] KVM: VMX: Remove vmx->current_tsc_ratio and decache_tsc_multiplier()
Date: Tue, 25 May 2021 18:52:51 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <248b20deaa1119881f089115cc768963c5af3c20.camel@amazon.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YK0emU2NjWZWBovh@google.com>
On Tue, 2021-05-25 at 15:58 +0000, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> On Tue, May 25, 2021, Stamatis, Ilias wrote:
> > On Mon, 2021-05-24 at 18:44 +0000, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > > Yes, but its existence is a complete hack. vmx->current_tsc_ratio has the same
> > > scope as vcpu->arch.tsc_scaling_ratio, i.e. vmx == vcpu == vcpu->arch. Unlike
> > > per-VMCS tracking, it should not be useful, keyword "should".
> > >
> > > What I meant by my earlier comment:
> > >
> > > Its use in vmx_vcpu_load_vmcs() is basically "write the VMCS if we forgot to
> > > earlier", which is all kinds of wrong.
> > >
> > > is that vmx_vcpu_load_vmcs() should never write vmcs.TSC_MULTIPLIER. The correct
> > > behavior is to set the field at VMCS initialization, and then immediately set it
> > > whenever the ratio is changed, e.g. on nested transition, from userspace, etc...
> > > In other words, my unclear feedback was to make it obsolete (and drop it) by
> > > fixing the underlying mess, not to just drop the optimization hack.
> >
> > I understood this and replied earlier. The right place for the hw multiplier
> > field to be updated is inside set_tsc_khz() in common code when the ratio
> > changes. However, this requires adding another vendor callback etc. As all
> > this is further refactoring I believe it's better to leave this series as is -
> > ie only touching code that is directly related to nested TSC scaling and not
> > try to do everything as part of the same series.
>
> But it directly impacts your code, e.g. the nested enter/exit flows would need
> to dance around the decache silliness. And I believe it even more directly
> impacts this series: kvm_set_tsc_khz() fails to handle the case where userspace
> invokes KVM_SET_TSC_KHZ while L2 is active.
Good catch!
>
> > This makes testing easier too.
>
> Hmm, sort of. Yes, the fewer patches/modifications in a series definitely makes
> the series itself easier to test. But stepping back and looking at the total
> cost of testing, I would argue that punting related changes to a later time
> increases the overall cost. E.g. if someone else picks up the clean up work,
> then they have to redo most, if not all, of the testing that you are already
> doing, including getting access to the proper hardware, understanding what tests
> to prioritize, etc... Whereas adding one more patch to your series is an
> incremental cost since you already have the hardware setup, know which tests to
> run, etc...
>
> > We can still implement these changes later.
>
> We can, but we shouldn't. Simply dropping vmx->current_tsc_ratio is not an
> option; it knowingly introduces a (minor) performance regression, for no reason
> other than wanting to avoid code churn. Piling more stuff on top of the flawed
> decache logic is impolite, as it adds more work for the person that ends up
> doing the cleanup. I would 100% agree if this were a significant cleanup and/or
> completely unrelated, but IMO that's not the case.
>
> Compile tested only...
Thank you.
>
>
> diff --git a/arch/x86/include/asm/kvm-x86-ops.h b/arch/x86/include/asm/kvm-x86-ops.h
> index 029c9615378f..34ad7a17458a 100644
> --- a/arch/x86/include/asm/kvm-x86-ops.h
> +++ b/arch/x86/include/asm/kvm-x86-ops.h
> @@ -90,6 +90,7 @@ KVM_X86_OP_NULL(has_wbinvd_exit)
> KVM_X86_OP(get_l2_tsc_offset)
> KVM_X86_OP(get_l2_tsc_multiplier)
> KVM_X86_OP(write_tsc_offset)
> +KVM_X86_OP(write_tsc_multiplier)
> KVM_X86_OP(get_exit_info)
> KVM_X86_OP(check_intercept)
> KVM_X86_OP(handle_exit_irqoff)
> diff --git a/arch/x86/include/asm/kvm_host.h b/arch/x86/include/asm/kvm_host.h
> index f099277b993d..a334ce7741ab 100644
> --- a/arch/x86/include/asm/kvm_host.h
> +++ b/arch/x86/include/asm/kvm_host.h
> @@ -1308,6 +1308,7 @@ struct kvm_x86_ops {
> u64 (*get_l2_tsc_offset)(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu);
> u64 (*get_l2_tsc_multiplier)(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu);
> void (*write_tsc_offset)(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu, u64 offset);
> + void (*write_tsc_multiplier)(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu, u64 multiplier);
>
> /*
> * Retrieve somewhat arbitrary exit information. Intended to be used
> diff --git a/arch/x86/kvm/svm/svm.c b/arch/x86/kvm/svm/svm.c
> index b18f60463073..914afcceb46d 100644
> --- a/arch/x86/kvm/svm/svm.c
> +++ b/arch/x86/kvm/svm/svm.c
> @@ -1103,6 +1103,14 @@ static void svm_write_tsc_offset(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu, u64 offset)
> vmcb_mark_dirty(svm->vmcb, VMCB_INTERCEPTS);
> }
>
> +static void svm_write_tsc_multiplier(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu, u64 l1_multiplier)
> +{
> + /*
> + * Handled when loading guest state since the ratio is programmed via
> + * MSR_AMD64_TSC_RATIO, not a field in the VMCB.
> + */
> +}
> +
Ok, what I wanted to avoid really is having to dig into SVM code and see where
exactly it sets the TSC multiplier or having to implement
svm_write_tsc_multiplier as I knew AMD uses an MSR instead of a VMCB field.
But if we are fine with introducing this as is above (for now) I will include
this in the series, apply the other small changes suggested and re-post the
patches.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-05-25 18:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-05-21 10:24 [PATCH v3 00/12] KVM: Implement nested TSC scaling Ilias Stamatis
2021-05-21 10:24 ` [PATCH v3 01/12] math64.h: Add mul_s64_u64_shr() Ilias Stamatis
2021-05-24 17:49 ` Maxim Levitsky
2021-05-21 10:24 ` [PATCH v3 02/12] KVM: X86: Store L1's TSC scaling ratio in 'struct kvm_vcpu_arch' Ilias Stamatis
2021-05-24 17:49 ` Maxim Levitsky
2021-05-21 10:24 ` [PATCH v3 03/12] KVM: X86: Rename kvm_compute_tsc_offset() to kvm_compute_tsc_offset_l1() Ilias Stamatis
2021-05-24 14:21 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-05-24 17:49 ` Maxim Levitsky
2021-05-21 10:24 ` [PATCH v3 04/12] KVM: X86: Add a ratio parameter to kvm_scale_tsc() Ilias Stamatis
2021-05-24 14:23 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-05-24 15:48 ` Sean Christopherson
2021-05-24 15:56 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-05-24 17:50 ` Maxim Levitsky
2021-05-21 10:24 ` [PATCH v3 05/12] KVM: VMX: Add a TSC multiplier field in VMCS12 Ilias Stamatis
2021-05-21 10:24 ` [PATCH v3 06/12] KVM: X86: Add functions for retrieving L2 TSC fields from common code Ilias Stamatis
2021-05-24 17:50 ` Maxim Levitsky
2021-05-21 10:24 ` [PATCH v3 07/12] KVM: X86: Add functions that calculate L2's TSC offset and multiplier Ilias Stamatis
2021-05-24 17:51 ` Maxim Levitsky
2021-05-21 10:24 ` [PATCH v3 08/12] KVM: X86: Move write_l1_tsc_offset() logic to common code and rename it Ilias Stamatis
2021-05-24 17:51 ` Maxim Levitsky
2021-05-21 10:24 ` [PATCH v3 09/12] KVM: VMX: Remove vmx->current_tsc_ratio and decache_tsc_multiplier() Ilias Stamatis
2021-05-24 17:53 ` Maxim Levitsky
2021-05-24 18:44 ` Sean Christopherson
2021-05-25 10:41 ` Stamatis, Ilias
2021-05-25 15:58 ` Sean Christopherson
2021-05-25 16:15 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-05-25 16:34 ` Sean Christopherson
2021-05-25 17:34 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-05-25 18:21 ` Sean Christopherson
2021-05-25 18:52 ` Stamatis, Ilias [this message]
2021-05-25 19:25 ` Stamatis, Ilias
2021-05-25 23:35 ` Sean Christopherson
2021-05-21 10:24 ` [PATCH v3 10/12] KVM: VMX: Set the TSC offset and multiplier on nested entry and exit Ilias Stamatis
2021-05-24 17:54 ` Maxim Levitsky
2021-05-25 16:05 ` Sean Christopherson
2021-05-21 10:24 ` [PATCH v3 11/12] KVM: VMX: Expose TSC scaling to L2 Ilias Stamatis
2021-05-21 10:24 ` [PATCH v3 12/12] KVM: selftests: x86: Add vmx_nested_tsc_scaling_test Ilias Stamatis
2021-05-24 17:55 ` Maxim Levitsky
2021-05-24 15:37 ` [PATCH v3 00/12] KVM: Implement nested TSC scaling Paolo Bonzini
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