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From: Jacek Anaszewski <jacek.anaszewski@gmail.com>
To: Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Cc: Yauhen Kharuzhy <jekhor@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-leds@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] leds: Add Intel Cherry Trail Whiskey Cove PMIC LEDs
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2019 22:46:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2b6faaa5-b21e-a512-de7d-ca21be5045fc@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <92cf09b8-726d-4f1b-94ba-368a66af2246@redhat.com>

Hi Hans and all,

On 2/14/19 12:31 PM, Hans de Goede wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On 14-02-19 12:14, Pavel Machek wrote:
>> Hi!
> 
> <snip>
> 
>>> That assumes that breathing is the default setting on all hardware
>>> and again I don't see why not to export this functionality to
>  >
>> Save the status on boot, then restore it on rmmod/reboot/poweroff? :-).
> 
> Which works until the system freezes one time. I believe that
> if we are going to do a LED driver for the charging LED on these
> devices, we MUST offer a way to put it back in its original
> state, even if the state is foo-barred at bootup.
> 
>>> userspace. Just because something does not fit in the existing
>>> API is IMHO not a good reason to not expose it to userspace.
>>>
>>> I suggest that we deal with this special case by adding 3 custom
>>> sysfs attributes:
>>>
>>> 1) "mode" which when read, prints, e.g. :
>>> manual [on-when-charging]
>>
>> While this allows _user on console_ to control everything using echo,
>> it is not suitable for applications trying to control LEDs.
>>
>> As there's nothing special about the case here, I believe we should
>> have generic solution here.
>>
>> My preffered solution would be "hardware" trigger that leaves the LED
>> in hardware control.
> 
> As you explained in the parts which I snipped, there are many
> devices which have a similar choice for a LED being under hw or
> user control. I can see how this looks like a trigger and how we
> could use the trigger API for this.
> 
> I believe though, that if we implement a "virtual" (for lack of
> a better word) trigger for this, that this should be done in the
> LED core. I can envision this working like this:
> 
> 1) Add a:
> 
> hw_control_set(struct led_classdev *led_cdev, bool enable_hw_control);

Please note that we have support for hw patterns in the pattern trigger.
(see how drivers/leds/leds-sc27xx-bltc.c makes use of it for its
breathing pattern).
We have also support for hw blinking in timer trigger via blink_set op.

In addition to that there is brightness_hw_changed sysfs attribute
with led_classdev_notify_brightness_hw_changed() LED API.

Couldn't they be used in concert to support the specific features
of the device in question?

> 
> Callback to struct led_classdev which when implemented by a driver
> like the current PMIC LED controller would do what it says.
> 
> 2) Have the core create and register a virtual hardware trigger the
> first time a LED cdev which has this callback gets registered.
> 
> When configured as the trigger for this LED device this trigger calls
> hw_control_set(cdev, true) and when unregistered calls
> hw_control_set(cdev, false)
> 
> Taking a quick look at the trigger code, a problem with this is
> that normally any trigger can work with any led device, so this
> "hardware" trigger will show up in the list of possible
> triggers for each device.
> 
> This problem can be solved by making the activate method for the
> hardware trigger check the classdev has a hw_control_set callback
> and if not return -EINVAL, or maybe -ENXIO but still this is somewhat
> inconsistent with other triggers, which AFAIK work with any LED.
> 
>> Alternatively I could imagine "hardware" sysfs attribute, containing
>> 0/1, with 0==software controlled, 1==hardware controlled.
> 
> Hmm, maybe call it "hardware_controlled" instead ? Otherwise this
> would work for me and I would personally prefer this solution. This
> could even be done in the LED core using the hw_control_set callback
> I proposed, to make sure it is handled consistently between devices.
> 
>> The rest of attributes would have to be Cove-specific, yes (but still
>> should fit with the rest of LED subsystem).
> 
> Right, I see that the triggers attribute already uses the fmt where
> on "cat" all options are listed and the current active one has [] around 
> it,
> so I think the pattern and frequency attributes I proposed should work
> well, although thinking more about this I believe the freq. attribute 
> should
> be called pattern_freq to make clear it applies to blinking / breathing
> set through the pattern attribute.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Hans
> 

-- 
Best regards,
Jacek Anaszewski

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-02-14 21:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-02-12 20:58 [PATCH v2 0/2] Intel Cherry Trail Whiskey Cove LEDs support Yauhen Kharuzhy
2019-02-12 20:59 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] leds: Add Intel Cherry Trail Whiskey Cove PMIC LEDs Yauhen Kharuzhy
2019-02-13 22:43   ` Hans de Goede
2019-02-13 23:07     ` Pavel Machek
2019-02-13 23:25       ` Hans de Goede
2019-02-13 23:38         ` Pavel Machek
2019-02-14  9:57           ` Hans de Goede
2019-02-14 11:14             ` Pavel Machek
2019-02-14 11:31               ` Hans de Goede
2019-02-14 12:28                 ` Pavel Machek
2019-02-15 21:41                   ` Jacek Anaszewski
2019-02-15 23:26                     ` Pavel Machek
2019-02-14 21:46                 ` Jacek Anaszewski [this message]
2019-02-14 23:03                   ` Pavel Machek
2019-02-15  7:27                     ` Yauhen Kharuzhy
2019-02-15 21:43                       ` Jacek Anaszewski
2019-02-16 11:26                         ` Yauhen Kharuzhy
2019-02-15 11:27                     ` Hans de Goede
2019-02-15 13:02                       ` Pavel Machek
2019-02-15 21:42                       ` Jacek Anaszewski
2019-02-15 22:26                         ` Hans de Goede
2019-02-15 22:31                           ` Jacek Anaszewski
2019-02-15 23:14                             ` Hans de Goede
2019-02-16 17:02                               ` Jacek Anaszewski
2019-02-16 19:01                                 ` Hans de Goede
2019-02-16 19:37                                   ` Pavel Machek
2019-02-16 20:55                                     ` Hans de Goede
2019-02-17  0:08                                       ` Pavel Machek
2019-02-17 14:10                                         ` Hans de Goede
2019-02-17 17:45                                           ` Pavel Machek
2019-02-18 11:12                                             ` Hans de Goede
2019-02-18 21:59                                               ` Jacek Anaszewski
2019-02-16 21:54                                     ` Jacek Anaszewski
2019-02-16 22:03                                       ` Hans de Goede
2019-02-17 12:40                                         ` Jacek Anaszewski
2019-02-14 11:28             ` Pavel Machek
2019-02-14 21:34             ` Yauhen Kharuzhy
2019-02-14  6:55     ` Yauhen Kharuzhy
2019-02-14 10:04     ` Hans de Goede
2019-02-12 20:59 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] mfd: Add leds MFD cell for intel_soc_pmic_chtwc Yauhen Kharuzhy
2019-02-13 21:24   ` Jacek Anaszewski
2019-03-20  9:56   ` Lee Jones
2019-03-20  9:57     ` Lee Jones
2019-04-21 19:28 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] Intel Cherry Trail Whiskey Cove LEDs support Hans de Goede
2019-04-24 18:32   ` Yauhen Kharuzhy

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