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From: Sachi King <nakato@nakato.io>
To: 'Maximilian Luz' <luzmaximilian@gmail.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	David Laight <David.Laight@aculab.com>
Cc: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"stable@vger.kernel.org" <stable@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86/i8259: Work around buggy legacy PIC
Date: Sat, 15 May 2021 05:41:07 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3034083.sOBWI1P7ec@yuki> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e43d9a823c9e44bab0cdbf32a000c373@AcuMS.aculab.com>

On Thursday, May 13, 2021 8:36:27 PM AEST David Laight wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Maximilian Luz <luzmaximilian@gmail.com>
> > Sent: 13 May 2021 11:12
> > To: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>; Thomas Gleixner
> > <tglx@linutronix.de>; Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>; Borislav Petkov
> > <bp@alien8.de>
> > Cc: H. Peter Anvin <hpa@zytor.com>; Sachi King <nakato@nakato.io>;
> > x86@kernel.org; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org; stable@vger.kernel.org
> > Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86/i8259: Work around buggy legacy PIC
> > 
> > On 5/13/21 10:10 AM, David Laight wrote:
> > 
> > > From: Maximilian Luz
> > > 
> > >> Sent: 12 May 2021 22:05
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> The legacy PIC on the AMD variant of the Microsoft Surface Laptop 4
> > >> has
> > >> some problems on boot. For some reason it consistently does not
> > >> respond
> > >> on the first try, requiring a couple more tries before it finally
> > >> responds.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > That seems very strange, something else must be going on that causes the
> > > grief.
> > > The 8259 will be built into to the one of the cpu support
> > > chips.
> > > I can't imagine that requires anything special.
> > 
> > 
> > Right, it's definitely strange. Both Sachi (I imagine) and I don't know
> > much about these devices, so we're open for suggestions.
> 
> 
> I found a copy of the datasheet (I don't seem to have the black book):
> 
> https://pdos.csail.mit.edu/6.828/2010/readings/hardware/8259A.pdf
> 
> The PC hardware has two 8259 in cascade mode.
> (Cascaded using an interrupt that wasn't really using in the original
> 8088 PC which only had one 8259.)
> 
> I wonder if the bios has actually initialised is properly.
> Some initialisation writes have to be done to set everything up.

I suspect by the displayed behaviour you are correct and that it has
not.  I'm struggling to figure out who to talk to to see that is
something that can be fixed in the firmware.

> It is also worth noting that the probe code is spectacularly crap.
> It writes 0xff and then checks that 0xff is read back.
> Almost anything (including a failed PCIe read to the ISA bridge)
> will return 0xff and make the test pass.

I was under the impression that it wrote 0xfb, and 0xff would be
considered a failure.

> It's about 35 years since I last wrote the code to initialise an 8259.
> The memory cells are foggy.

I'm not sure the i8259 is needed on the device, as the interrupts
appear to function on the device if I bypass the nr_legacy_irqs() check
while the legacy_pic is set to the null_legacy_pic.

The null_legacy_pic however specifies having 0 irqs, and the io_apic
does not allow us to set the pin attributes unless the pin we are
attempting to set is less than nr_legacy_irqs.

The IOAPIC seems to take responsibility for the 0-15 interrupts on this
specific hardware, should we maybe be ignoring the i8259 and looking
into allowing interrupts 0-15 to be setup even when the legacy_pic is
not available?

Cheers,
Sachi



  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-05-14  9:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-12 21:04 [PATCH] x86/i8259: Work around buggy legacy PIC Maximilian Luz
2021-05-13  8:10 ` David Laight
2021-05-13 10:11   ` Maximilian Luz
2021-05-13 10:36     ` David Laight
2021-05-14 13:01       ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-05-14 13:13         ` David Laight
2021-05-14 16:19           ` Ingo Molnar
2021-05-14 19:41       ` Sachi King [this message]
2021-05-14 10:51         ` David Laight
2021-05-14 11:58         ` Maximilian Luz
2021-05-14 17:32           ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-05-14 17:35             ` H. Peter Anvin
2021-05-14 22:47               ` Maximilian Luz
2021-05-17 18:40                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-05-17 19:25                   ` Maximilian Luz
2021-05-17 23:27                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-05-18  8:28                       ` Andy Shevchenko
2021-05-18 19:58                       ` Sachi King
2021-05-18 15:45                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-05-14 13:44     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-05-14 16:12       ` David Laight
2021-05-14 17:28         ` H. Peter Anvin

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