From: "Sean" <seanlkml@sympatico.ca>
To: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
Cc: "Clemens Schwaighofer" <cs@tequila.co.jp>,
"Olivier Galibert" <galibert@pobox.com>,
kernel@crazytrain.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [BK] upgrade will be needed
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 00:57:55 -0500 (EST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3615.10.10.10.24.1108619875.squirrel@linux1> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050217045743.GB6115@thunk.org>
On Wed, February 16, 2005 11:57 pm, Theodore Ts'o said:
> On Thu, Feb 17, 2005 at 09:11:45AM +0900, Clemens Schwaighofer wrote:
>>
>> first. what kind of advantages does bk have over other svn? Seriously.
>> If Apache can use it, and gcc might use it (again two very large
>> projects), what makes linux so differetnt that it can't.
>
> Compare the number of developers, the number of overlapping
> simultaneous development trees, and the number of patches that touch
> overlapping files, and you'll begin to start to appreciate the
> difference between a system that can work for Linux, and a system that
> can working for simpler projects.
>
Hey Ted,
Considering that the kernel was being developed without BK for a long time
it's rather obvious that _any_ version control system could have improved
the situation. BK gets credit for improving the situation, but much of
that improvment could have been achieved with any of the simpler and truly
free options too.
Even today, some top developers do not use BK and manage to get along
fine. BK offers some advantages over simpler version control offerings
but the price is too high. It's disappointing to see so many top
developers not give a damn about its costs and ignore the difficulties it
creates for many.
Cheers,
Sean
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-02-17 6:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 157+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-02-14 2:08 [BK] upgrade will be needed Larry McVoy
2005-02-14 6:02 ` Matthew Jacob
2005-02-14 6:17 ` Adam Sulmicki
2005-02-14 9:49 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2005-02-14 12:08 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2005-02-14 15:08 ` Jeff Sipek
2005-02-14 15:40 ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-14 16:21 ` linux-os
2005-02-14 17:12 ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-16 23:55 ` Pavel Machek
2005-02-17 20:33 ` David Weinehall
2005-02-17 21:31 ` Chris Wright
2005-02-14 17:14 ` Marcin Dalecki
2005-02-14 17:23 ` Russell Miller
2005-02-14 17:49 ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-14 18:33 ` Marcin Dalecki
2005-02-14 18:47 ` Steven Rostedt
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2005-02-15 1:00 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-02-15 3:01 ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-15 3:39 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-02-15 14:05 ` Alexandre Oliva
2005-02-14 19:29 ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-14 21:13 ` Erik Andersen
2005-02-14 18:17 ` Matthew Jacob
2005-02-14 18:36 ` Marcin Dalecki
2005-02-14 18:45 ` Matthew Jacob
2005-02-14 20:02 ` Matthias Andree
2005-02-15 5:13 ` Scott Lockwood
2005-02-14 18:56 ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-14 20:36 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-02-14 21:25 ` Paolo Ciarrocchi
2005-02-14 23:02 ` Henrik Persson
2005-02-14 21:30 ` Tom Felker
2005-02-15 9:04 ` James Bruce
2005-02-16 17:31 ` Jeff Sipek
2005-02-14 23:24 ` Marcin Dalecki
2005-02-15 3:35 ` Horst von Brand
2005-02-15 5:23 ` Hua Zhong
2005-02-15 12:19 ` kernel
2005-02-15 12:45 ` linux-os
2005-02-15 13:39 ` Helge Hafting
2005-02-16 9:45 ` Clemens Schwaighofer
2005-02-16 10:21 ` Catalin Marinas
2005-02-16 13:40 ` Schwaighofer Clemens
2005-02-16 15:39 ` d.c
2005-02-17 0:14 ` Clemens Schwaighofer
2005-02-16 15:43 ` Olivier Galibert
2005-02-16 17:01 ` Sean
2005-02-17 0:11 ` Clemens Schwaighofer
2005-02-17 4:57 ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-02-17 5:57 ` Sean [this message]
2005-02-17 6:22 ` d.c
2005-02-17 6:49 ` Sean
2005-02-17 16:34 ` Lee Revell
2005-02-17 16:40 ` Sean
2005-02-17 16:55 ` Chris Friesen
2005-02-17 16:58 ` Sean
2005-02-17 20:52 ` Horst von Brand
2005-02-17 21:24 ` Sean
2005-02-18 1:42 ` Horst von Brand
2005-02-18 7:52 ` Sean
2005-02-18 16:27 ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-02-18 18:34 ` Sean
2005-02-18 19:26 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-02-18 19:31 ` Sean
2005-02-18 19:46 ` John Stoffel
2005-02-18 19:49 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-02-18 19:57 ` Sean
2005-02-19 0:59 ` Horst von Brand
2005-02-18 20:45 ` d.c
2005-02-18 21:13 ` David S. Miller
2005-02-18 21:34 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2005-02-18 22:18 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2005-02-18 22:35 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-02-19 7:53 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2005-02-23 19:15 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-02-21 5:43 ` Miles Bader
2005-02-21 6:56 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-02-21 7:00 ` N/A Christof Dorner
2005-02-21 15:40 ` [BK] upgrade will be needed Kevin P. Fleming
2005-02-17 23:25 ` Ed Tomlinson
2005-02-17 23:32 ` Sean
2005-02-17 23:54 ` Lee Revell
2005-02-17 23:56 ` Sean
2005-02-18 4:00 ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-02-18 4:03 ` Clemens Schwaighofer
2005-02-18 7:26 ` Sean
2005-02-18 12:31 ` Ed Tomlinson
2005-02-18 0:29 ` Clemens Schwaighofer
2005-02-18 2:31 ` Horst von Brand
2005-02-17 7:55 ` Roland Kuhn
2005-02-17 8:09 ` Clemens Schwaighofer
2005-02-17 9:27 ` Roland Kuhn
2005-02-17 10:27 ` Sean
2005-02-18 0:32 ` Clemens Schwaighofer
2005-02-14 18:54 ` Juergen Stuber
2005-02-14 20:13 ` Matthew Dharm
2005-02-14 20:17 ` Matthias Andree
2005-02-15 17:26 ` Juergen Stuber
2005-02-15 2:46 ` Tristan Wibberley
2005-02-15 13:24 ` Tristan Wibberley
2005-02-14 19:44 ` Matthias Andree
2005-02-14 20:05 ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-14 22:24 ` Gerold Jury
2005-02-14 22:57 ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-14 23:23 ` David Lang
2005-02-15 0:03 ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-15 1:23 ` David Lang
2005-02-15 16:34 ` Olivier Galibert
2005-02-14 23:29 ` Gerold Jury
2005-02-15 13:55 ` Alexandre Oliva
2005-02-15 16:57 ` Alan Cox
2005-02-17 0:00 ` Pavel Machek
2005-02-17 1:41 ` Alexandre Oliva
2005-02-17 9:46 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2005-02-17 12:36 ` Pavel Machek
2005-02-17 14:07 ` Citizen Number 24655
2005-02-17 15:05 ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-02-17 16:27 ` Florian Weimer
2005-02-18 8:32 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-02-15 2:13 ` Ed Tomlinson
2005-02-15 2:40 ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-15 3:04 ` Paul Jackson
2005-02-15 12:41 ` Ed Tomlinson
2005-02-15 13:56 ` Alexandre Oliva
2005-02-15 14:55 ` Anton Ertl
2005-02-14 13:13 ` Mws
2005-02-14 15:03 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-02-14 16:00 ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-14 17:21 ` Marcin Dalecki
2005-02-15 12:13 ` kernel
2005-02-16 23:46 ` Pavel Machek
2005-02-18 8:56 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-02-18 2:05 ` Patrick McFarland
2005-02-18 2:24 ` [darcs-users] " Tupshin Harper
2005-02-18 2:33 ` Sean
2005-02-18 9:09 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-02-18 10:58 ` Tomasz Zielonka
2005-02-18 11:53 ` Erik Bågfors
2005-02-18 12:50 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-02-19 9:10 ` Patrick McFarland
2005-02-19 10:17 ` Sean
2005-02-19 16:42 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-02-19 17:15 ` David Roundy
2005-02-19 17:53 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-02-21 12:41 ` David Roundy
2005-02-21 18:33 ` David Brown
2005-02-21 13:48 ` Patrick McFarland
2005-02-20 10:36 ` Ralph Corderoy
2005-02-18 17:50 ` Dustin Sallings
2005-02-21 5:39 ` Miles Bader
2005-02-21 15:53 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-02-21 19:45 ` zander
2005-02-21 20:27 ` Horst von Brand
2005-02-23 17:14 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2005-02-14 21:08 Martin Fouts
2005-02-14 21:20 Martin Fouts
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