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From: Jonathan Marek <jonathan@marek.ca>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: freedreno@lists.freedesktop.org, Rob Clark <robdclark@gmail.com>,
	Sean Paul <sean@poorly.run>, David Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>,
	Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>,
	"open list:DRM DRIVER FOR MSM ADRENO GPU" 
	<linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"open list:DRM DRIVER FOR MSM ADRENO GPU" 
	<dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	open list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] drm/msm: add DRM_MSM_GEM_SYNC_CACHE for non-coherent cache maintenance
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2020 10:35:43 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3e0b91be-e4a4-4ea5-7d58-6e71b8d51932@marek.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201005082914.GA31702@infradead.org>

On 10/5/20 4:29 AM, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 02, 2020 at 08:46:35AM -0400, Jonathan Marek wrote:
>>>> +void msm_gem_sync_cache(struct drm_gem_object *obj, uint32_t flags,
>>>> +		size_t range_start, size_t range_end)
>>>> +{
>>>> +	struct msm_gem_object *msm_obj = to_msm_bo(obj);
>>>> +
>>>> +	/* TODO: sync only the required range, and don't invalidate on clean */
>>>> +
>>>> +	if (flags & MSM_GEM_SYNC_CACHE_CLEAN)
>>>> +		sync_for_device(msm_obj);
>>>> +
>>>> +	if (flags & MSM_GEM_SYNC_CACHE_INVALIDATE)
>>>> +		sync_for_cpu(msm_obj);
>>>
>>> And make to these ones as well.  They are complete abuses of the DMA
>>> API, and while we had to live with that for now to not cause regressions
>>> they absoutely must not be exposed in a userspace ABI like this.
>>>
>>
>> How do you propose that cached non-coherent memory be implemented? It is a
>> useful feature for userspace.
> 
> If the driver is using the DMA API you need to use dma_alloc_noncoherent
> and friends as of 5.10 (see the iommu list for the discussion).
> 
> If you use the raw IOMMU API (which I think the msm drm driver does) you
> need to work with the maintainers to implement a cache synchronization
> API that is not tied to the DMA API.
> 

The cache synchronization doesn't have anything to do with IOMMU (for 
example: cache synchronization would be useful in cases where drm/msm 
doesn't use IOMMU).

What is needed is to call arch_sync_dma_for_{cpu,device} (which is what 
I went with initially, but then decided to re-use drm/msm's 
sync_for_{cpu,device}). But you are also saying those functions aren't 
for driver use, and I doubt IOMMU maintainers will want to add wrappers 
for these functions just to satisfy this "not for driver use" requirement.

  reply	other threads:[~2020-10-05 14:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-01  0:27 [PATCH 0/3] drm/msm: support for host-cached BOs Jonathan Marek
2020-10-01  0:27 ` [PATCH 1/3] drm/msm: add MSM_BO_CACHED_COHERENT Jonathan Marek
2020-10-01 23:47   ` Jordan Crouse
2020-10-01  0:27 ` [PATCH 2/3] drm/msm: add DRM_MSM_GEM_SYNC_CACHE for non-coherent cache maintenance Jonathan Marek
2020-10-01 23:29   ` [Freedreno] " Jordan Crouse
2020-10-02  7:53   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-10-02 12:46     ` Jonathan Marek
2020-10-05  8:29       ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-10-05 14:35         ` Jonathan Marek [this message]
2020-10-06  7:23           ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-10-06 13:19             ` Jonathan Marek
2020-10-07  6:25               ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-10-13 13:42                 ` Robin Murphy
2020-10-13 16:11                   ` Rob Clark
2020-10-15  6:55                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-10-15 15:33                     ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-15 15:43                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-10-23  6:48                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-10-08  8:27             ` Joerg Roedel
2020-10-01  0:27 ` [PATCH 3/3] drm/msm: bump up the uapi version Jonathan Marek

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