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From: Ian Kent <raven@themaw.net>
To: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>, Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>
Cc: Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>,
	Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>, Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Karel Zak <kzak@redhat.com>, Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-man <linux-man@vger.kernel.org>,
	LSM <linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Christian Brauner <christian@brauner.io>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] getting misc stats/attributes via xattr API
Date: Tue, 10 May 2022 11:34:39 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4a712f3618835ac9ba0db8d26630f8edf209a193.camel@themaw.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YnmK0VJhQ4sf8AMI@redhat.com>

On Mon, 2022-05-09 at 17:42 -0400, Vivek Goyal wrote:
> On Mon, May 09, 2022 at 05:08:56PM +0200, Christian Brauner wrote:
> 
> [..]
> > Having "xattr" in the system call name is just confusing. These are
> > fundamentally not "real" xattrs and we shouldn't mix semantics.
> > There
> > should be a clear distinction between traditional xattrs and this
> > vfs
> > and potentially fs information providing interface.
> > 
> > Just thinking about what the manpage would look like. We would need
> > to
> > add a paragraph to xattr(7) explaining that in addition to the
> > system.*,
> > security.*, user.* and other namespaces we now also have a set of
> > namespaces that function as ways to get information about mounts or
> > other things instead of information attached to specific inodes.
> > 
> > That's super random imho. If I were to be presented with this
> > manpage
> > I'd wonder if someone was too lazy to add a proper new system call
> > with
> > it's own semantics for this and just stuffed it into an existing
> > API
> > because it provided matching system call arguments. We can add a
> > new
> > system call. It's not that we're running out of them.
> 
> FWIW, I also felt that using xattr API to get some sort of mount info
> felt
> very non-intutive.

Yeah, people looking for this function simply wouldn't know to
look here ...

Ian

  reply	other threads:[~2022-05-10  3:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-03 12:23 [RFC PATCH] getting misc stats/attributes via xattr API Miklos Szeredi
2022-05-03 14:39 ` Amir Goldstein
2022-05-03 14:53   ` Greg KH
2022-05-03 15:04     ` Miklos Szeredi
2022-05-03 15:14       ` Amir Goldstein
2022-05-03 16:54       ` Greg KH
2022-05-03 22:43 ` Dave Chinner
2022-05-04  7:18   ` Miklos Szeredi
2022-05-04 14:22     ` Amir Goldstein
2022-05-05 12:30 ` Karel Zak
2022-05-05 13:59   ` Miklos Szeredi
2022-05-05 23:38 ` tytso
2022-05-06  0:06   ` Amir Goldstein
2022-05-07  0:32   ` Dave Chinner
2022-05-09 12:48 ` Christian Brauner
2022-05-09 14:20   ` Amir Goldstein
2022-05-09 15:08     ` Christian Brauner
2022-05-09 17:07       ` Amir Goldstein
2022-05-09 21:42       ` Vivek Goyal
2022-05-10  3:34         ` Ian Kent [this message]
2022-05-10  0:55   ` Dave Chinner
2022-05-10 12:40     ` Christian Brauner
2022-05-11  0:42       ` Dave Chinner
2022-05-11  9:16         ` Christian Brauner
2022-05-10 12:45     ` Florian Weimer
2022-05-10 23:04       ` Dave Chinner
2022-05-10  3:49   ` Miklos Szeredi
2022-05-10  4:27     ` Ian Kent
2022-05-10  8:06       ` Miklos Szeredi
2022-05-10  8:07         ` Miklos Szeredi
2022-05-10 11:53     ` Christian Brauner
2022-05-10 13:15       ` Miklos Szeredi
2022-05-10 13:18         ` Miklos Szeredi
2022-05-10 14:19         ` Christian Brauner
2022-05-10 14:41           ` Miklos Szeredi
2022-05-10 15:30             ` Christian Brauner
2022-05-10 15:47               ` Miklos Szeredi
2022-05-10 15:53                 ` Christian Brauner
2022-05-10 12:35   ` Karel Zak
2022-05-10 23:25     ` Dave Chinner
2022-05-11  8:58       ` Karel Zak
2022-11-14  9:00 ` Abel Wu
2022-11-14 12:35   ` Miklos Szeredi
2022-11-15  3:39     ` Abel Wu

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