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From: Alejandro Colomar <colomar.6.4.3@gmail.com>
To: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
Cc: mtk.manpages@gmail.com, linux-man@vger.kernel.org,
	libc-alpha@sourceware.org, gcc@gcc.gnu.org,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] system_data_types.7: Add 'void *'
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2020 10:24:39 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4b86f6e9-0d8a-f14a-73ce-ebbdc9d9edba@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <538b683f-01d2-6148-4f1d-1b293eb5cd6b@cs.ucla.edu>

Hi Paul,

On 2020-10-01 19:32, Paul Eggert wrote:
 > If you're going to document this at all, I suggest documenting 'void' as
 > well as 'void *', and putting both sets of documentation into the same
 > man page.
 >

All the types we're documenting are in the same page:
system_data_types(7).
And then we have links with the name of each type.

And yes, I also pretend to document 'void'.


 > For 'void *' you should also mention that one cannot use arithmetic on
 > void * pointers, so they're special in that way too.

Good suggestion!

 > Also, you should
 > warn that because one can convert from any pointer type to void * and
 > then to any other pointer type, it's a deliberate hole in C's
 > type-checking.

Also good.  I'll talk about generic function parameters for this.

 > It might not also hurt to mention 'void const *', 'void
 > volatile *', 'void const volatile *', etc.

Those are qualifiers for the type,
and I don't see how any of them would apply differently to 'void *'
than to any other pointer type (or any type at all),
so I think they don't belong to system_data_types(7).

However, it might be good that someone starts a page called
'type_qualifiers(7)' or something like that.

I would love that someone documents 'volatile' correctly,
as there aren't many good sources about it.
If someone who knows when to use --and especially when not to use--
'volatile', is reading this, think about it :-)
I still wonder if I used it correctly in the few cases I've had to.

BTW, I'll CC the LKML.

 >
 > For 'void' you can mention the usual things, such as functions returning
 > void, and functions declared with (void) parameters, why one would want
 > to cast to (void), and so forth.

Yes, I was thinking about that.

 >
 > You're starting to document the C language here, and if you're going to
 > do that you might as well do it right.

I'm trying to do so :)

Thanks,

Alex

       reply	other threads:[~2020-10-02  8:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <41affebd-3354-9420-0048-bffd14535e95@gmail.com>
     [not found] ` <20201001154946.104626-2-colomar.6.4.3@gmail.com>
     [not found]   ` <538b683f-01d2-6148-4f1d-1b293eb5cd6b@cs.ucla.edu>
2020-10-02  8:24     ` Alejandro Colomar [this message]
2020-10-02  8:48       ` [PATCH v2 1/2] system_data_types.7: Add 'void *' Alejandro Colomar
2020-10-02 11:44         ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-10-02  9:10       ` David Laight
2020-10-02 17:00         ` Paul Eggert
2020-10-02 10:49       ` Jonathan Wakely
2020-10-02 11:31         ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-10-02 13:06           ` Jonathan Wakely
2020-10-02 13:20             ` Alejandro Colomar
2020-10-02 13:27               ` Jonathan Wakely
2020-10-02 13:51                 ` Alejandro Colomar
2020-10-03  8:00                   ` Navigational corrections (was: Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] system_data_types.7: Add 'void *') Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-10-03  9:16                     ` Navigational corrections Alejandro Colomar
2020-10-03 11:39                       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-10-05 22:08                         ` Alejandro Colomar
2020-10-07  6:53                           ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)

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