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From: Oliver O'Halloran <oohall@gmail.com>
To: Alex_Gagniuc@Dellteam.com, gregkh@linuxfoundation.org
Cc: keith.busch@intel.com, helgaas@kernel.org, mr.nuke.me@gmail.com,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, Austin.Bolen@dell.com,
	Shyam.Iyer@dell.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	jonathan.derrick@intel.com, lukas@wunner.de, ruscur@russell.cc,
	sbobroff@linux.ibm.com, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] PCI/MSI: Don't touch MSI bits when the PCI device is disconnected
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2018 16:49:59 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5da8d8aa9f3818af649b1ac547bc4e6062626ddf.camel@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <16bf9d14bc5f4a90b2b88dd2eb165186@ausx13mps321.AMER.DELL.COM>

On Thu, 2018-11-08 at 23:06 +0000, Alex_Gagniuc@Dellteam.com wrote:
> On 11/08/2018 04:51 PM, Greg KH wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 08, 2018 at 10:49:08PM +0000, Alex_Gagniuc@Dellteam.com wrote:
> > > In the case that we're trying to fix, this code executing is a result of
> > > the device being gone, so we can guarantee race-free operation. I agree
> > > that there is a race, in the general case. As far as checking the result
> > > for all F's, that's not an option when firmware crashes the system as a
> > > result of the mmio read/write. It's never pretty when firmware gets
> > > involved.
> > 
> > If you have firmware that crashes the system when you try to read from a
> > PCI device that was hot-removed, that is broken firmware and needs to be
> > fixed.  The kernel can not work around that as again, you will never win
> > that race.
> 
> But it's not the firmware that crashes. It's linux as a result of a 
> fatal error message from the firmware. And we can't fix that because FFS 
> handling requires that the system reboots [1].

Do we know the exact circumsances that result in firmware requesting a
reboot? If it happen on any PCIe error I don't see what we can do to
prevent that beyond masking UEs entirely (are we even allowed to do
that on FFS systems?).

> If we're going to say that we don't want to support FFS because it's a 
> separate code path, and different flow, that's fine. I am myself, not a 
> fan of FFS. But if we're going to continue supporting it, I think we'll 
> continue to have to resolve these sort of unintended consequences.
> 
> Alex
> 
> [1] ACPI 6.2, 18.1 - Hardware Errors and Error Sources


  reply	other threads:[~2018-11-12  5:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-09-18 22:15 [PATCH v2] PCI/MSI: Don't touch MSI bits when the PCI device is disconnected Alexandru Gagniuc
2018-11-06  0:32 ` Alex G.
2018-11-07 17:04   ` Derrick, Jonathan
2018-11-07 23:42 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2018-11-08 20:09   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2018-11-08 21:49     ` Keith Busch
2018-11-08 22:01     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-11-08 22:32       ` Keith Busch
2018-11-08 22:42         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-11-08 22:49           ` Alex_Gagniuc
2018-11-08 22:51             ` Greg KH
2018-11-08 23:06               ` Alex_Gagniuc
2018-11-12  5:49                 ` Oliver O'Halloran [this message]
2018-11-12 20:05                   ` Alex_Gagniuc
2018-11-13  5:02                     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2018-11-13 22:39                       ` Alex_Gagniuc
2018-11-13 22:52                         ` Keith Busch
2018-11-14  0:31                           ` Alex_Gagniuc
2018-11-14  5:59                         ` Bjorn Helgaas
2018-11-14 19:22                           ` Alex_Gagniuc
2018-11-14 19:41                             ` Derrick, Jonathan
2018-11-14 20:23                             ` Keith Busch
2018-11-14 20:52                               ` Alex_Gagniuc
2018-11-14 20:58                                 ` Keith Busch
2018-11-15  6:24                             ` Bjorn Helgaas
2018-11-16  0:19                               ` Alex_Gagniuc
2018-11-08 23:03           ` Keith Busch
2018-11-09  7:29       ` Lukas Wunner
2018-11-09 11:32         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-11-09 16:36           ` Keith Busch
2018-11-08 22:20     ` Alex_Gagniuc
2018-11-09  7:11     ` Lukas Wunner
2018-11-12  5:48       ` Oliver O'Halloran
2018-12-27 19:28     ` Alex_Gagniuc

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