From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.7 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,NICE_REPLY_A, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,USER_AGENT_SANE_1 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 148E7C433EF for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2021 23:35:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E38A66113A for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2021 23:35:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S235124AbhIQXgx (ORCPT ); Fri, 17 Sep 2021 19:36:53 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:47332 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S234965AbhIQXgr (ORCPT ); Fri, 17 Sep 2021 19:36:47 -0400 Received: from mail-qk1-x730.google.com (mail-qk1-x730.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::730]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 80C1AC061757 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2021 16:35:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-qk1-x730.google.com with SMTP id f22so22569246qkm.5 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2021 16:35:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=toxicpanda-com.20210112.gappssmtp.com; s=20210112; h=message-id:date:mime-version:user-agent:subject:content-language:to :cc:references:from:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=F8L4H42y086vt8flssxKjNTo0yHfea8YjCpw371YNIc=; b=Oc4fx4eeKMreiumWXSObAgriDTvCSAG97eOw5W8tQkgLlrfzqJOcE3CxQiO6dtrkH6 DYiMdJcdXItfgNJGvKzwMMDGHH8yJ1g8ZwQcZnk51KPjWFgaV/We8MkeYF67r+okOhLK hILzWNuHlWVvNS3G49r0Pz3d4alFFzCHzLZpDeRQRzRWAu+DGD9WuZdyxiLRzBtQf8sq hWuEqkoSarISEO589xuyIzgaluEycFf0En3/vwgG+BX7n+1H5TTYxYsETpX8Bp2b4QhG 3+vnRPXh5txp8x1246P8j9PeOpgGEHvXKuyBFFxvSwnECHserUX8mzp9Hx5v4dLSivFO omXA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:mime-version:user-agent:subject :content-language:to:cc:references:from:in-reply-to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=F8L4H42y086vt8flssxKjNTo0yHfea8YjCpw371YNIc=; b=eFWyh0pU5+QX3I+8WDiggSTrakcKBGyQHo4FWHfiGM9eMLb7nMYS7oZdbo1rMxNnfK C4CIy5GlyolYzQVTMbWSEaYHdaGSvnOHG0r7L2WTopEtsf1+ghx8RzlF+E2qlgfVNxs5 M0vulXIo7uxlWGQP7lzz1U3V/TVa+u8ZcDkei08Ms7J+aSgCtSNIC9E7yTE2fycCe+ga KW/1wY2n92LRTHJQzqeYugVVvCDJSAogczYyeQ6cIxA/e232l/YLm2d88fP3wLM9y/QR Wp3/maLU5g+pS5FLGOm3+DMTMR0CFVER8f8UTn589etqTW8kJ0FjEsCj0JcBLapURNzM tM+A== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531r6+4KuY/RvBTb3zvO+E5+mBbO00VQFEqPbXxGwR7g6HBMHaQy 8IvOpGYFMa31fqaUAjr1N41Pf0A1L3lvzQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzRPIlfZL3nyByyaMFw8dYegtxhwV0JXYBKliwKQ91GIrI5zSOZPKgkdSEAxb7XW5BeLnZDng== X-Received: by 2002:a05:620a:214f:: with SMTP id m15mr12984134qkm.59.1631921723552; Fri, 17 Sep 2021 16:35:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.211] (cpe-174-109-172-136.nc.res.rr.com. [174.109.172.136]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id l1sm2239686qti.94.2021.09.17.16.35.21 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 17 Sep 2021 16:35:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <654f9679-8734-3830-2e29-f531eb9aeb0a@toxicpanda.com> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2021 19:35:21 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.0.3 Subject: Re: Folio discussion recap Content-Language: en-US To: Theodore Ts'o , Kent Overstreet Cc: Johannes Weiner , Dave Chinner , "Darrick J. Wong" , Matthew Wilcox , Linus Torvalds , linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton , Christoph Hellwig , David Howells References: <20210916025854.GE34899@magnolia> <20210917052440.GJ1756565@dread.disaster.area> From: Josef Bacik In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 9/17/21 6:25 PM, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > On Fri, Sep 17, 2021 at 05:13:10PM -0400, Kent Overstreet wrote: >> Also: it's become pretty clear to me that we have crappy >> communications between MM developers and filesystem >> developers. > > I think one of the challenges has been the lack of an LSF/MM since > 2019. And it may be that having *some* kind of ad hoc technical > discussion given that LSF/MM in 2021 is not happening might be a good > thing. I'm sure if we asked nicely, we could use the LPC > infrasutrcture to set up something, assuming we can find a mutually > agreeable day or dates. > We have a slot for this in the FS MC, first slot actually, so hopefully we can get things hashed out there. Thanks, Josef