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From: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
To: Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>
Cc: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	"Kirill A . Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/15] Make MAX_ORDER adjustable as a kernel boot time parameter.
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2021 13:27:27 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6ae6cd92-3ff4-7ed3-b337-a4dfe33da1c@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <F34DBD0A-22DE-4CF2-B784-BBDD80A8E85A@nvidia.com>

On Fri, 6 Aug 2021, Zi Yan wrote:
> 
> In addition, I would like to share more detail on my plan on supporting 1GB PUD THP.
> This patchset is the first step, enabling kernel to allocate 1GB pages, so that
> user can get 1GB THPs from ZONE_NORMAL and ZONE_MOVABLE without using
> alloc_contig_pages() or CMA allocator. The next step is to improve kernel memory
> fragmentation handling for pages up to MAX_ORDER, since currently pageblock size
> is still limited by memory section size. As a result, I will explore solutions
> like having additional larger pageblocks (up to MAX_ORDER) to counter memory
> fragmentation. I will discover what else needs to be solved as I gradually improve
> 1GB PUD THP support.

Sorry to be blunt, but let me state my opinion: 2MB THPs have given and
continue to give us more than enough trouble.  Complicating the kernel's
mm further, just to allow 1GB THPs, seems a very bad tradeoff to me.  I
understand that it's an appealing personal project; but for the sake of
of all the rest of us, please leave 1GB huge pages to hugetlbfs (until
the day when we are all using 2MB base pages).

Hugh

  reply	other threads:[~2021-08-06 20:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-08-05 19:02 [RFC PATCH 00/15] Make MAX_ORDER adjustable as a kernel boot time parameter Zi Yan
2021-08-05 19:02 ` [RFC PATCH 01/15] arch: x86: remove MAX_ORDER exceeding SECTION_SIZE check for 32bit vdso Zi Yan
2021-08-05 19:02 ` [RFC PATCH 02/15] arch: mm: rename FORCE_MAX_ZONEORDER to ARCH_FORCE_MAX_ORDER Zi Yan
2021-08-05 19:02 ` [RFC PATCH 03/15] mm: check pfn validity when buddy allocator can merge pages across mem sections Zi Yan
2021-08-05 19:02 ` [RFC PATCH 04/15] mm: prevent pageblock size being larger than section size Zi Yan
2021-08-05 19:02 ` [RFC PATCH 05/15] mm/memory_hotplug: online pages at " Zi Yan
2021-08-05 19:02 ` [RFC PATCH 06/15] mm: use PAGES_PER_SECTION instead for mem_map_offset/next() Zi Yan
2021-08-05 19:02 ` [RFC PATCH 07/15] mm: hugetlb: use PAGES_PER_SECTION to check mem_map discontiguity Zi Yan
2021-08-05 19:02 ` [RFC PATCH 08/15] fs: proc: use PAGES_PER_SECTION for page offline checking period Zi Yan
2021-08-07 10:32   ` Mike Rapoport
2021-08-09 15:45     ` [RFC PATCH 08/15] " Zi Yan
2021-08-05 19:02 ` [RFC PATCH 09/15] virtio: virtio_mem: use PAGES_PER_SECTION instead of MAX_ORDER_NR_PAGES Zi Yan
2021-08-09  7:35   ` David Hildenbrand
2021-08-05 19:02 ` [RFC PATCH 10/15] virtio: virtio_balloon: " Zi Yan
2021-08-09  7:42   ` David Hildenbrand
2021-08-05 19:02 ` [RFC PATCH 11/15] mm/page_reporting: report pages at section size instead of MAX_ORDER Zi Yan
2021-08-09  7:25   ` David Hildenbrand
2021-08-09 14:12     ` Alexander Duyck
2021-08-09 15:08       ` Zi Yan
2021-08-09 16:51         ` Alexander Duyck
2021-08-09 14:08   ` Alexander Duyck
2021-08-05 19:02 ` [RFC PATCH 12/15] mm: Make MAX_ORDER of buddy allocator configurable via Kconfig SET_MAX_ORDER Zi Yan
2021-08-06 15:16   ` Vlastimil Babka
2021-08-06 15:23     ` Zi Yan
2021-08-05 19:02 ` [RFC PATCH 13/15] mm: convert MAX_ORDER sized static arrays to dynamic ones Zi Yan
2021-08-05 19:16   ` Christian König
2021-08-05 19:58     ` Zi Yan
2021-08-06  9:37       ` Christian König
2021-08-06 14:00         ` Zi Yan
2021-08-05 19:02 ` [RFC PATCH 14/15] mm: introduce MIN_MAX_ORDER to replace MAX_ORDER as compile time constant Zi Yan
2021-08-08  8:23   ` Mike Rapoport
2021-08-09 15:35     ` Zi Yan
2021-08-05 19:02 ` [RFC PATCH 15/15] mm: make MAX_ORDER a kernel boot time parameter Zi Yan
2021-08-06 15:36 ` [RFC PATCH 00/15] Make MAX_ORDER adjustable as " Vlastimil Babka
2021-08-06 16:16   ` David Hildenbrand
2021-08-06 16:54     ` Vlastimil Babka
2021-08-06 17:08       ` David Hildenbrand
2021-08-06 18:24         ` Zi Yan
2021-08-09  7:20           ` David Hildenbrand
2021-08-08  7:41       ` Mike Rapoport
2021-08-06 16:32 ` Vlastimil Babka
2021-08-06 17:19   ` Zi Yan
2021-08-06 20:27     ` Hugh Dickins [this message]
2021-08-06 21:26       ` Zi Yan
2021-08-09  4:04         ` Hugh Dickins
2021-08-07  1:10       ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-08-07 21:23         ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-08-09  4:29         ` Hugh Dickins
2021-08-09 11:22           ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-08-09  7:41 ` David Hildenbrand

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