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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Suresh Siddha <sbsiddha@gmail.com>,
	Nate Eldredge <nate@thatsmathematics.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
	stable <stable@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Maarten Baert <maarten-baert@hotmail.com>,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, George Spelvin <linux@horizon.com>,
	Pekka Riikonen <priikone@iki.fi>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Make math_state_restore() save and restore the interrupt flag
Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2014 12:00:14 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <74304a13-a3b1-451c-870e-034b66224dc4@email.android.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFxex2ymO3k_udRL=yT9xF5PtRx=O2O2vtL76PBUE0fNtg@mail.gmail.com>

Of course, if we are really doing all eager fpu, we could just leave cr0.ts always clear and not touch it at all...

On February 1, 2014 11:46:15 AM PST, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
>On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 11:35 AM, H. Peter Anvin <hpa@zytor.com> wrote:
>>
>> This will obviously not protect eageronly features (MPX, LWP, ...) so
>this
>> means those features are permanently unavailable to the kernel, even
>inside
>> kernel_fpu_begin/end.  Now, currently I don't think we have any plans
>to use
>> those in the kernel (at least not in a way where kernel_fpu_begin/end
>makes
>> sense as bracketing), but it is something worth keeping in mind.
>
>Hmm. If there are features that (silently) depend on the FPU state
>being on, then the plain "stts" doesn't work at all, because we'd be
>returning to user space too (not just kernel space) with TS turned
>off.
>
>.. which *does* actually bring up something that might work, and might
>be a good idea: remove the "restore math state or set TS" from the
>normal kernel paths *entirely*, and move it to the "return to user
>space" phase.
>
>We could do that with the whole "task_work" thing (or perhaps just
>do_notify_resume(), especially after merging the "don't necessarily
>return with iret" patch I sent out earlier), with additionally making
>sure that scheduling does the right thing wrt a "currently dirty math
>state due to kernel use".
>
>The advantage of that would be that we really could do a *lot* of FP
>math very cheaply in the kernel, because we'd pay the overhead of
>kernel_fpu_begin/end() just once (well, the "end" part would be just
>setting the bit that we now have dirty state, the cost would be in the
>return-to-user-space-and-restore-fp-state part).
>
>Comments? That would be much more invasive than just changing
>__kernel_fpu_end(), but would bring in possibly quite noticeable
>advantages under loads that use the FP/vector resources in the kernel.
>
>                Linus

-- 
Sent from my mobile phone.  Please pardon brevity and lack of formatting.

  reply	other threads:[~2014-02-01 20:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-01-30 22:01 [PATCH] Make math_state_restore() save and restore the interrupt flag Nate Eldredge
2014-01-30 22:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-01-31  7:33   ` Suresh Siddha
2014-02-01 19:27     ` Linus Torvalds
2014-02-01 19:35       ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-02-01 19:46         ` Linus Torvalds
2014-02-01 20:00           ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2014-02-01 20:16             ` Linus Torvalds
2014-02-01 20:16           ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-02-01 21:17           ` George Spelvin
2014-02-01 21:36             ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-02-01 23:40             ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-02-02  0:17               ` Linus Torvalds
2014-02-02  1:19               ` George Spelvin
2014-02-02  1:25                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-02-02  8:45           ` Pekka Riikonen
2014-02-02  1:06       ` Suresh Siddha
2014-02-02  1:26         ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-02-02  1:35           ` Suresh Siddha
2014-02-02  1:38             ` Linus Torvalds
2014-02-02  1:47               ` Suresh Siddha
2014-02-02  1:51                 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-02-02  1:57                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-02-02  2:05                     ` Linus Torvalds
2014-02-02  2:12                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-02-02  1:59                   ` Suresh Siddha
2014-02-02  1:43             ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-02-02  1:47               ` Linus Torvalds
2014-02-02  7:19         ` Suresh Siddha
2014-02-02 19:15           ` Linus Torvalds
2014-02-03  6:56             ` Suresh Siddha
2014-02-03 18:20               ` Linus Torvalds
2014-02-04  6:03                 ` Suresh Siddha
2014-02-06  5:26               ` Nate Eldredge
2014-02-06  5:34                 ` George Spelvin
2014-02-13 15:45               ` Maarten Baert
2014-02-13 20:00                 ` George Spelvin
2014-03-11 19:36               ` [tip:x86/urgent] x86, fpu: Check tsk_used_math() in kernel_fpu_end() for eager FPU tip-bot for Suresh Siddha
2014-02-27 23:44           ` [PATCH] Make math_state_restore() save and restore the interrupt flag H. Peter Anvin
2014-03-07 23:18             ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-03-08  6:18               ` Suresh Siddha

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