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From: Nayna <nayna@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Eric Snowberg <eric.snowberg@oracle.com>,
	keyrings@vger.kernel.org, linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org,
	zohar@linux.ibm.com, dhowells@redhat.com, dwmw2@infradead.org,
	herbert@gondor.apana.org.au, davem@davemloft.net,
	jarkko@kernel.org, jmorris@namei.org, serge@hallyn.com
Cc: keescook@chromium.org, gregkh@linuxfoundation.org,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org, scott.branden@broadcom.com,
	weiyongjun1@huawei.com, nayna@linux.ibm.com, ebiggers@google.com,
	ardb@kernel.org, nramas@linux.microsoft.com, lszubowi@redhat.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com, pjones@redhat.com,
	konrad.wilk@oracle.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 00/13] Enroll kernel keys thru MOK
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2021 16:03:33 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7e83a42f-22ff-350a-2017-d286b1b1b02c@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210914211416.34096-1-eric.snowberg@oracle.com>


On 9/14/21 5:14 PM, Eric Snowberg wrote:
> Back in 2013 Linus requested a feature to allow end-users to have the
> ability "to add their own keys and sign modules they trust". This was
> his *second* order outlined here [1]. There have been many attempts
> over the years to solve this problem, all have been rejected.  Many
> of the failed attempts loaded all preboot firmware keys into the kernel,
> including the Secure Boot keys. Many distributions carry one of these
> rejected attempts [2], [3], [4]. This series tries to solve this problem
> with a solution that takes into account all the problems brought up in
> the previous attempts.
>
> On UEFI based systems, this series introduces a new Linux kernel keyring
> containing the Machine Owner Keys (MOK) called machine. It also defines
> a new MOK variable in shim. This variable allows the end-user to decide
> if they want to load MOK keys into the machine keyring. Mimi has suggested
> that only CA keys contained within the MOK be loaded into the machine
> keyring. All other certs will load into the platform keyring instead.
>
> By default, nothing changes; MOK keys are not loaded into the machine
> keyring.  They are only loaded after the end-user makes the decision
> themselves.  The end-user would set this through mokutil using a new
> --trust-mok option [5]. This would work similar to how the kernel uses
> MOK variables to enable/disable signature validation as well as use/ignore
> the db. Any kernel operation that uses either the builtin or secondary
> trusted keys as a trust source shall also reference the new machine
> keyring as a trust source.
>
> Secure Boot keys will never be loaded into the machine keyring.  They
> will always be loaded into the platform keyring.  If an end-user wanted
> to load one, they would need to enroll it into the MOK.
>
> Steps required by the end user:
>
> Sign kernel module with user created key:
> $ /usr/src/kernels/$(uname -r)/scripts/sign-file sha512 \
>     machine_signing_key.priv machine_signing_key.x509 my_module.ko
>
> Import the key into the MOK
> $ mokutil --import machine_signing_key.x509
>
> Setup the kernel to load MOK keys into the .machine keyring
> $ mokutil --trust-mok
>
> Then reboot, the MokManager will load and ask if you want to trust the
> MOK key and enroll the MOK into the MOKList.  Afterwards the signed kernel
> module will load.

machine_signing_key.x509 appears to be a code-signing, self-signed key.  
It's not a CA key, but the intent of the patchset is to load only CA 
keys to .machine keyring.

Shouldn't there be two steps: one to load the CA key into MOK, and a 
second one to load the code-signing key which is signed by this CA ?

Thanks & Regards,

       - Nayna


  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-09-16 20:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-14 21:14 [PATCH v6 00/13] Enroll kernel keys thru MOK Eric Snowberg
2021-09-14 21:14 ` [PATCH v6 01/13] integrity: Introduce a Linux keyring called machine Eric Snowberg
2021-09-14 21:14 ` [PATCH v6 02/13] integrity: Do not allow machine keyring updates following init Eric Snowberg
2021-09-14 21:14 ` [PATCH v6 03/13] KEYS: CA link restriction Eric Snowberg
2021-09-16 20:05   ` Nayna
2021-09-14 21:14 ` [PATCH v6 04/13] integrity: restrict INTEGRITY_KEYRING_MACHINE to restrict_link_by_ca Eric Snowberg
2021-09-14 21:14 ` [PATCH v6 05/13] integrity: add new keyring handler for mok keys Eric Snowberg
2021-09-14 21:14 ` [PATCH v6 06/13] KEYS: Rename get_builtin_and_secondary_restriction Eric Snowberg
2021-09-14 21:14 ` [PATCH v6 07/13] KEYS: add a reference to machine keyring Eric Snowberg
2021-09-14 21:14 ` [PATCH v6 08/13] KEYS: Introduce link restriction for machine keys Eric Snowberg
2021-09-14 21:14 ` [PATCH v6 09/13] KEYS: integrity: change link restriction to trust the machine keyring Eric Snowberg
2021-09-14 21:14 ` [PATCH v6 10/13] KEYS: link secondary_trusted_keys to machine trusted keys Eric Snowberg
2021-09-14 21:14 ` [PATCH v6 11/13] integrity: store reference to machine keyring Eric Snowberg
2021-09-14 21:14 ` [PATCH v6 12/13] integrity: Trust MOK keys if MokListTrustedRT found Eric Snowberg
2021-09-16 22:19   ` Peter Jones
2021-09-17  2:00     ` Eric Snowberg
2021-09-17 15:03       ` Peter Jones
2021-09-17 16:06         ` Eric Snowberg
2021-09-14 21:14 ` [PATCH v6 13/13] integrity: Only use machine keyring when uefi_check_trust_mok_keys is true Eric Snowberg
2021-09-15 17:57 ` [PATCH v6 00/13] Enroll kernel keys thru MOK Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-09-15 21:28   ` Eric Snowberg
2021-09-16 15:15     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-09-16 22:14       ` Peter Jones
2021-09-17  1:58         ` Eric Snowberg
2021-09-21 21:03         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-09-16 20:03 ` Nayna [this message]
2021-09-17  1:55   ` Eric Snowberg
2021-09-17 18:02     ` Mimi Zohar

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