From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
Cc: "Jürg Billeter" <j@bitron.ch>,
"Christian Brauner" <christian@brauner.io>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] signal: add taskfd_send_signal() syscall
Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2018 08:46:57 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87bm5yiufy.fsf@xmission.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877egm6a7v.fsf@oldenburg2.str.redhat.com> (Florian Weimer's message of "Thu, 06 Dec 2018 14:44:36 +0100")
Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com> writes:
> * Eric W. Biederman:
>
>> Floriam are you seeing a problem with this behavior or the way Christian
>> was describing it?
>
> My hope is that you could use taskfd_send_signal one day to send a
> signal to a process which you *known* (based on how you've written your
> application) should be running and not in a zombie state, and get back
> an error if it has exited.
>
> If you get this error, only then you wait on the process, using the file
> descriptor you have, and run some recovery code.
>
> Wouldn't that be a reasonable approach once we've got task descriptors?
Getting an error back if the target was a zombie does seem reasonable,
as in principle it is an easy thing to notice, and post zombie once the
process has been reaped we definitely get an error back.
I also agree that it sounds like an extension, as changing the default
would violate the princile of least surprise.
Eric
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-12-06 14:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-12-06 12:18 [PATCH v4] signal: add taskfd_send_signal() syscall Christian Brauner
2018-12-06 12:30 ` Florian Weimer
2018-12-06 12:45 ` Jürg Billeter
2018-12-06 13:12 ` Florian Weimer
2018-12-06 13:18 ` Jürg Billeter
2018-12-06 13:20 ` Florian Weimer
2018-12-06 13:40 ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-12-06 13:44 ` Florian Weimer
2018-12-06 14:27 ` Aleksa Sarai
2018-12-06 14:46 ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2018-12-06 12:53 ` Christian Brauner
2018-12-06 13:17 ` Florian Weimer
2018-12-06 15:01 ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-12-06 16:17 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-12-06 17:24 ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-12-06 17:41 ` Christian Brauner
2018-12-06 18:30 ` Kees Cook
2018-12-06 22:27 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2018-12-06 17:14 ` Christian Brauner
2018-12-06 19:17 ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-12-06 19:30 ` Christian Brauner
2018-12-06 20:29 ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-12-06 20:37 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-12-06 22:22 ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-12-06 22:43 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-12-06 21:31 ` Christian Brauner
2018-12-06 21:46 ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-12-06 22:01 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-12-06 22:39 ` Christian Brauner
2018-12-06 23:17 ` Christian Brauner
2018-12-07 0:31 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2018-12-07 0:34 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-12-07 0:59 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2018-12-07 1:39 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-12-07 1:54 ` Christian Brauner
2018-12-07 16:49 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2018-12-07 16:47 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2018-12-08 21:46 ` kbuild test robot
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