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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Wen Yang <wen.yang99@zte.com.cn>,
	majiang <ma.jiang@zte.com.cn>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 11/11] signal: Ignore all but multi-process signals that come in during fork.
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2018 11:02:29 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87h8l5g3qi.fsf@xmission.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180711141456.GA6636@redhat.com> (Oleg Nesterov's message of "Wed, 11 Jul 2018 16:14:56 +0200")

Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com> writes:

> On 07/10, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>>
>> @@ -1602,6 +1603,20 @@ static __latent_entropy struct task_struct *copy_process(
>>  {
>>  	int retval;
>>  	struct task_struct *p;
>> +	unsigned seq;
>> +
>> +	/*
>> +	 * Signals that are delivered to multiple processes need to be
>> +	 * delivered to just the parent before the fork or both the
>> +	 * parent and the child after the fork.  Cache the multiple
>> +	 * process signal sequence number so we can detect any of
>> +	 * these signals that happen during the fork.  In the unlikely
>> +	 * event a signal comes in while fork is starting and restart
>> +	 * fork to handle the signal.
>> +	 */
>> +	seq = read_seqcount_begin(&current->signal->multi_process_seq);
>> +	if (signal_pending(current))
>> +		return ERR_PTR(-ERESTARTNOINTR);
>>
>>  	/*
>>  	 * Don't allow sharing the root directory with processes in a different
>> @@ -1930,8 +1945,8 @@ static __latent_entropy struct task_struct *copy_process(
>>  	 * A fatal signal pending means that current will exit, so the new
>>  	 * thread can't slip out of an OOM kill (or normal SIGKILL).
>>  	*/
>> -	recalc_sigpending();
>> -	if (signal_pending(current)) {
>> +	if (read_seqcount_retry(&current->signal->multi_process_seq, seq) ||
>> +	    fatal_signal_pending(current)) {
>>  		retval = -ERESTARTNOINTR;
>>  		goto bad_fork_cancel_cgroup;
>
> So once again, I think this is not right, see the discussion on
> bugzilla.

I am trying to dig through and understand your concerns.  I am having
difficulty understanding your concerns.

Do the previous patches look good to you?  Can we say that is a
sufficient method to get the information about signals that are sent to
multiple processes into __send_signal?

> If signal_pending() == T we simply can't know if copy_process() can succeed or not.
> I have already mentioned the races with stop/freeze, but I think there
> are more.

If I understand you correctly.  Your concern is that since we added the:

	recalc_sigpending();
        if (signal_pending(current))
        	return -ERESTARTNOINTR;

Other (non-signal) code such as the freezer has come to depend upon that
test.  Changing the test in the proposed way will allow the new child to
escape the freezer, as it is not guaranteed the new child will be
frozen.

It seems reasonable to look at other things that set TIF_SIGPENDING and
see if any of them are broken by the fork changes.

A quick look at exit_to_usermode_loop shows that TIF_SIGPENDING only
triggers signal handling.  In get_signal there is only task_work_run,
try_to_freeze, and burried there is ptrace_stop. 

Plus there is restart_syscall() that sets TIF_SIGPENDING.  Now that we
aren't guaranteed that TIF_SIGPENDING is set before we restart, the code
should be using "retval = restart_syscall();"  I will fix that.


I will dig in and see what attention those cases need in fork
signal_pending behavior.  I am hoping that it will be as simple as
adding:

        /* Have the child return to userspace slowly
	 * TIF_SIGPENDING was set during fork
         */
	if (test_tsk_thread_flag(current, TIF_SIGPENDING))
		set_tsk_thread_flag(p, TIF_SIGPENDING);
        	

> And in fact I think that the fact that signal_wake_up() helps to avoid the races
> with fork() is useful. Say, we could add signal_wake_up() into syscall_regfunc()
> and kill syscall_tracepoint_update(). Not that I think this particular change makes
> any sense, but it can work.
>
> That is why I tried to sugest another approach. copy_process() should always fail
> if signal_pending() == T, just the "real" signal should not disturb the forking
> thread unless the signal is fatal or multi-process.

So after seeing the report of periodic timers causing a 40ms fork to
stretch into a 1000ms fork because of restarts, I am not a fan of cases
where fork has to restart.  40ms is a lot of work to abandon.

A practical (and fixable) problem with your patch was that you modified
task->blocked which was then copied to the child.  So all children now
would start with all signals being blocked.

> This also makes another difference in multi-threaded case, a signal with a handler
> sent to a forking process will be re-targeted to another thread which can handle it;
> with your patch this signal will be "blocked" until fork() finishes or until another
> thread gets TIF_SIGPENDING. Not that I think this is that important,
> but still.

I would not object to wants_signal deciding that a task in the middle of
copy_process does not want signals.

Eric

  reply	other threads:[~2018-07-11 16:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <bug-200447-5873-b2kAsSyE1X@https.bugzilla.kernel.org/>
     [not found] ` <CA+55aFyOaEGc_wjRuAxYZH7D4zi4xUQTqUwMmUzxFJQ__2pXuQ@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]   ` <87h8l9p7bg.fsf@xmission.com>
     [not found]     ` <20180709104158.GA23796@redhat.com>
     [not found]       ` <87sh4so5jv.fsf@xmission.com>
     [not found]         ` <20180709145726.GA26149@redhat.com>
     [not found]           ` <877em4nxo0.fsf@xmission.com>
     [not found]             ` <CA+55aFwq90_KeRUesktap7L_4Hp3gatKZ28RYw1jXBYeOqUoeA@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]               ` <87lgakm4ol.fsf@xmission.com>
     [not found]                 ` <CA+55aFz1XFvOgJySKVNQD9VS4hys0J7rozxqd3s5ND0z80tfVw@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                   ` <20180710134639.GA2453@redhat.com>
2018-07-10 16:00                     ` [Bug 200447] infinite loop in fork syscall Eric W. Biederman
2018-07-11 12:08                       ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                     ` <CA+55aFxcjSYAj-CZFEuDwiwZyMg+prV_jeP_Vuh06RJA0BboSw@mail.gmail.com>
2018-07-11  2:41                       ` [RFC][PATCH 0/11] PIDTYPE_TGID and fewer fork restarts Eric W. Biederman
2018-07-11  2:44                         ` [RFC][PATCH 01/11] pids: Initialize leader_pid in init_task Eric W. Biederman
2018-07-11  2:44                         ` [RFC][PATCH 02/11] pids: Move task_pid_type into sched/signal.h Eric W. Biederman
2018-07-11  2:44                         ` [RFC][PATCH 03/11] pids: Compute task_tgid using signal->leader_pid Eric W. Biederman
2018-07-11  2:44                         ` [RFC][PATCH 04/11] kvm: Don't open code task_pid in kvm_vcpu_ioctl Eric W. Biederman
2018-07-11  2:44                         ` [RFC][PATCH 05/11] pids: Move the pgrp and session pid pointers from task_struct to signal_struct Eric W. Biederman
2018-07-17 11:59                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-07-11  2:44                         ` [RFC][PATCH 06/11] pid: Implement PIDTYPE_TGID Eric W. Biederman
2018-07-11  2:44                         ` [RFC][PATCH 07/11] signal: Deliver group signals via PIDTYPE_TGID not PIDTYPE_PID Eric W. Biederman
2018-07-16 12:51                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-07-16 14:50                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-07-16 17:17                               ` Linus Torvalds
2018-07-16 18:01                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-07-16 18:40                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2018-07-17  9:56                                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-07-17 10:18                                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-07-20 23:41                                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-07-17 16:38                               ` Linus Torvalds
2018-07-20 23:27                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-07-11  2:44                         ` [RFC][PATCH 08/11] signal: Use PIDTYPE_TGID to clearly store where file signals will be sent Eric W. Biederman
2018-07-11  2:44                         ` [RFC][PATCH 09/11] tty_io: Use do_send_sig_info in __do_SACK to forcibly kill tasks Eric W. Biederman
2018-07-16 14:55                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-07-16 15:08                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-07-16 16:50                               ` Linus Torvalds
2018-07-16 19:17                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-07-16 19:36                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2018-07-17  1:48                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-07-17 10:58                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-07-11  2:44                         ` [RFC][PATCH 10/11] signal: Push pid type from signal senders down into __send_signal Eric W. Biederman
2018-07-11  3:11                           ` Linus Torvalds
2018-07-11  2:44                         ` [RFC][PATCH 11/11] signal: Ignore all but multi-process signals that come in during fork Eric W. Biederman
2018-07-11 14:14                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-07-11 16:02                             ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2018-07-12 13:42                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-07-12 17:11                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-07-13 14:51                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-07-24  3:22                         ` [PATCH 00/20] PIDTYPE_TGID removal of fork restarts Eric W. Biederman
2018-07-24  3:24                           ` [PATCH 01/20] pids: Initialize leader_pid in init_task Eric W. Biederman
2018-07-24  3:24                           ` [PATCH 02/20] pids: Move task_pid_type into sched/signal.h Eric W. Biederman
2018-07-24  3:24                           ` [PATCH 03/20] pids: Compute task_tgid using signal->leader_pid Eric W. Biederman
2018-07-24  3:24                           ` [PATCH 04/20] kvm: Don't open code task_pid in kvm_vcpu_ioctl Eric W. Biederman
2018-07-24  3:24                           ` [PATCH 05/20] pids: Move the pgrp and session pid pointers from task_struct to signal_struct Eric W. Biederman
2018-07-24  3:24                           ` [PATCH 06/20] pid: Implement PIDTYPE_TGID Eric W. Biederman
2018-07-24  3:24                           ` [PATCH 07/20] signal: Use PIDTYPE_TGID to clearly store where file signals will be sent Eric W. Biederman
2018-08-16  4:04                             ` [PATCH] signal: Don't send signals to tasks that don't exist Eric W. Biederman
2018-08-17 17:34                               ` Dmitry Vyukov
2018-08-17 18:46                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-08-17 19:24                                   ` Andrew Morton
2018-08-18  5:51                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-08-20 19:26                                       ` J. Bruce Fields
2018-07-24  3:24                           ` [PATCH 08/20] posix-timers: Noralize good_sigevent Eric W. Biederman
2018-07-24  3:24                           ` [PATCH 09/20] signal: Pass pid and pid type into send_sigqueue Eric W. Biederman
2018-07-24  3:24                           ` [PATCH 10/20] signal: Pass pid type into group_send_sig_info Eric W. Biederman
2018-07-24  3:24                           ` [PATCH 11/20] signal: Pass pid type into send_sigio_to_task & send_sigurg_to_task Eric W. Biederman
2018-07-24  3:24                           ` [PATCH 12/20] signal: Pass pid type into do_send_sig_info Eric W. Biederman
2018-07-24  3:24                           ` [PATCH 13/20] signal: Push pid type down into send_signal Eric W. Biederman
2018-07-24  3:24                           ` [PATCH 14/20] signal: Push pid type down into __send_signal Eric W. Biederman
2018-07-24  3:24                           ` [PATCH 15/20] signal: Push pid type down into complete_signal Eric W. Biederman
2018-07-24  3:24                           ` [PATCH 16/20] fork: Move and describe why the code examines PIDNS_ADDING Eric W. Biederman
2018-07-24  3:24                           ` [PATCH 17/20] fork: Unconditionally exit if a fatal signal is pending Eric W. Biederman
2018-07-24  3:24                           ` [PATCH 18/20] signal: Add calculate_sigpending() Eric W. Biederman
2018-07-26 13:20                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-07-26 15:13                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-07-26 16:24                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-07-24  3:24                           ` [PATCH 19/20] fork: Have new threads join on-going signal group stops Eric W. Biederman
2018-07-24  3:24                           ` [PATCH 20/20] signal: Don't restart fork when signals come in Eric W. Biederman
2018-07-24 17:27                             ` Linus Torvalds
2018-07-24 17:58                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-07-24 18:29                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-07-24 20:05                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-07-24 20:15                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2018-07-24 20:40                                       ` [PATCH v2 " Eric W. Biederman
2018-07-24 20:56                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2018-07-24 21:24                                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-07-25  3:56                                             ` [PATCH v3 " Eric W. Biederman
2018-07-26 13:41                                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-07-26 14:42                                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-07-26 15:55                                                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-08-09  6:19                                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-07-26 16:21                                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-07-24 17:29                           ` [PATCH 00/20] PIDTYPE_TGID removal of fork restarts Linus Torvalds
2018-07-25 16:05                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-07-25 16:58                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-08-09  6:53                           ` [PATCH v5 0/6] Not restarting for due to signals Eric W. Biederman
2018-08-09  6:56                             ` [PATCH v5 1/6] fork: Move and describe why the code examines PIDNS_ADDING Eric W. Biederman
2018-08-09  6:56                             ` [PATCH v5 2/6] fork: Unconditionally exit if a fatal signal is pending Eric W. Biederman
2018-08-09  6:56                             ` [PATCH v5 3/6] signal: Add calculate_sigpending() Eric W. Biederman
2018-08-09  6:56                             ` [PATCH v5 4/6] fork: Skip setting TIF_SIGPENDING in ptrace_init_task Eric W. Biederman
2018-08-09  6:56                             ` [PATCH v5 5/6] fork: Have new threads join on-going signal group stops Eric W. Biederman
2018-08-09  6:56                             ` [PATCH v5 6/6] signal: Don't restart fork when signals come in Eric W. Biederman
2018-08-09 17:15                               ` Linus Torvalds
2018-08-09 17:42                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-08-09 18:09                                 ` [PATCH v6 " Eric W. Biederman
2018-08-09 17:16                             ` [PATCH v5 0/6] Not restarting for due to signals Linus Torvalds

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