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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: linux-arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
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	Ley Foon Tan <ley.foon.tan@intel.com>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Daniel Jacobowitz <drow@nevyn.them.org>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Subject: Re: Kernel stack read with PTRACE_EVENT_EXIT and io_uring threads
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2021 16:54:05 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87sg1lwhvm.fsf@disp2133> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wgdO5VwSUFjfF9g=DAQNYmVxzTq73NtdisYErzdZKqDGg@mail.gmail.com> (Linus Torvalds's message of "Fri, 11 Jun 2021 16:26:21 -0700")

Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> writes:

> On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 2:40 PM Eric W. Biederman <ebiederm@xmission.com> wrote:
>>
>> Looking at copy_thread it looks like at least on alpha we are dealing
>> with a structure that defines all of the registers in copy_thread.
>
> On the target side, yes.
>
> On the _source_ side, the code does
>
>         struct pt_regs *regs = current_pt_regs();
>
> and that's the part that means that fork() and related functions need
> to have done that DO_SWITCH_STACK(), so that they have the full
> register set to be copied.
>
> Otherwise it would copy random contents from the source stack.
>
> But that
>
>         if (unlikely(p->flags & (PF_KTHREAD | PF_IO_WORKER))) {
>
> ends up protecting us, and the code never uses that set of source
> registers for the io worker threads.

The test in copy_thread.  That isn't the case I am worried about.

> So io_uring looks fine on alpha. I didn't check m68k and friends, but
> I think they have the same thing going.

As I have read through the code more I don't think so.

The code paths I am worried about are:

	ret_from_kernel_thread
        	io_wqe_worker
                	get_signal
                        	do_coredump
                        	ptrace_stop

	ret_from_kernel_thread
        	io_sq_thread
                	get_signal
                        	do_coredump
                        	ptrace_stop


As I understand the code the new thread created by create_thread
initially has a full complement of registers, and then is started
by alpha_switch_to:

	.align	4
	.globl	alpha_switch_to
	.type	alpha_switch_to, @function
	.cfi_startproc
alpha_switch_to:
	DO_SWITCH_STACK
	call_pal PAL_swpctx
	lda	$8, 0x3fff
	UNDO_SWITCH_STACK
	bic	$sp, $8, $8
	mov	$17, $0
	ret
	.cfi_endproc
	.size	alpha_switch_to, .-alpha_switch_to


The alpha_switch_to will remove the extra registers from the stack and
then call ret which if I understand alpha assembly correctly is
equivalent to jumping to where $26 points.  Which is
ret_from_kernel_thread (as setup by copy_thread).

Which leaves ret_from_kernel_thread and everything it calls without
the extra context saved on the stack.

I am still trying to understand how we get registers populated at a
fixed offset on the stack during schedule.  As it looks like switch_to
assumes the stack pointer is in the proper location.

>> It looks like we just need something like this to cover the userspace
>> side of exit.
>
> Looks correct to me. Except I think you could just use "fork_like()"
> instead of creating a new (and identical) "exit_like()" macro.
>
>> > But I really wish we had some way to test and trigger this so that we
>> > wouldn't get caught on this before. Something in task_pt_regs() that
>> > catches "this doesn't actually work" and does a WARN_ON_ONCE() on the
>> > affected architectures?
>>
>> I think that would require pushing an extra magic value in SWITCH_STACK
>> and not just popping it but deliberately changing that value in
>> UNDO_SWITCH_STACK.  Basically stack canaries.
>>
>> I don't see how we could do it in an arch independent way though.
>
> No, I think you're right. There's no obvious generic solution to it,
> and once we look at arch-specific ones we're vback to "just alpha,
> m68k and nios needs this or cares" and tonce you're there you might as
> well just fix it.
>
> ia64 has soem "fast system call" model with limited registers too, but
> I think that's limited to just a few very special system calls (ie it
> does the reverse of what alpha does: alpha does the fast case by
> default, and then marks fork/vfork/clone as special).

I wonder if the arch specific solution should be to move the registers
to a fixed location in task_struct (perhaps thread_struct ) so that the
same patterns can apply across all architectures and we don't get
surprises at all.

What appears to be unique about alpha, m68k, and nios is that
space is not always reserved for all of the registers, so we can't
always count on them being saved after a task switch.

Eric

  reply	other threads:[~2021-06-13 21:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 112+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-10 20:57 Kernel stack read with PTRACE_EVENT_EXIT and io_uring threads Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-10 22:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-06-11 21:39   ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-11 23:26     ` Linus Torvalds
2021-06-13 21:54       ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2021-06-13 22:18         ` Linus Torvalds
2021-06-14  2:05           ` Michael Schmitz
2021-06-14  5:03             ` Michael Schmitz
2021-06-14 16:26               ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-14 22:26                 ` Michael Schmitz
2021-06-15 19:30                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-15 19:36                     ` [PATCH] alpha: Add extra switch_stack frames in exit, exec, and kernel threads Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-15 22:02                       ` Linus Torvalds
2021-06-16 16:32                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-16 18:29                           ` [PATCH 0/2] alpha/ptrace: Improved switch_stack handling Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-16 18:31                             ` [PATCH 1/2] alpha/ptrace: Record and handle the absence of switch_stack Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-16 20:00                               ` Linus Torvalds
2021-06-16 20:37                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-06-16 20:57                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-16 21:02                                     ` Al Viro
2021-06-16 21:08                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2021-06-16 20:42                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-16 20:17                               ` Al Viro
2021-06-21  2:01                               ` Michael Schmitz
2021-06-21  2:17                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-06-21  3:18                                   ` Michael Schmitz
2021-06-21  3:37                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2021-06-21  4:08                                       ` Michael Schmitz
2021-06-21  3:44                                     ` Al Viro
2021-06-21  5:31                                       ` Michael Schmitz
2021-06-21  2:27                                 ` Al Viro
2021-06-21  3:36                                   ` Michael Schmitz
2021-06-16 18:32                             ` [PATCH 2/2] alpha/ptrace: Add missing switch_stack frames Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-16 20:25                               ` Al Viro
2021-06-16 20:28                                 ` Al Viro
2021-06-16 20:49                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-16 20:54                                     ` Al Viro
2021-06-16 20:47                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-16 20:55                                   ` Al Viro
2021-06-16 20:50                       ` [PATCH] alpha: Add extra switch_stack frames in exit, exec, and kernel threads Al Viro
2021-06-15 20:56                     ` Kernel stack read with PTRACE_EVENT_EXIT and io_uring threads Michael Schmitz
2021-06-16  0:23                       ` Finn Thain
2021-06-15 21:58                     ` Linus Torvalds
2021-06-16 15:06                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-21 13:54                       ` Al Viro
2021-06-21 14:16                         ` Al Viro
2021-06-21 16:50                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-21 23:05                             ` Al Viro
2021-06-22 16:39                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-21 15:38                         ` Linus Torvalds
2021-06-21 18:59                         ` Al Viro
2021-06-21 19:22                           ` Linus Torvalds
2021-06-21 19:45                             ` Al Viro
2021-06-21 23:14                               ` Linus Torvalds
2021-06-21 23:23                                 ` Al Viro
2021-06-21 23:36                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2021-06-22 21:02                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-22 21:48                                       ` Michael Schmitz
2021-06-23  5:26                                         ` Michael Schmitz
2021-06-23 14:36                                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-22  0:01                                 ` Michael Schmitz
2021-06-22 20:04                                 ` Michael Schmitz
2021-06-22 20:18                                   ` Al Viro
2021-06-22 21:57                                     ` Michael Schmitz
2021-06-21 20:03                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-21 23:15                               ` Linus Torvalds
2021-06-22 20:52                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-23  0:41                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2021-06-23 14:33                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-24 18:57                                       ` [PATCH 0/9] Refactoring exit Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-24 18:59                                         ` [PATCH 1/9] signal/sh: Use force_sig(SIGKILL) instead of do_group_exit(SIGKILL) Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-24 18:59                                         ` [PATCH 2/9] signal/seccomp: Refactor seccomp signal and coredump generation Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-26  3:17                                           ` Kees Cook
2021-06-28 19:21                                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-28 14:34                                           ` [signal/seccomp] 3fdd8c68c2: kernel-selftests.seccomp.seccomp_bpf.fail kernel test robot
2021-06-24 19:00                                         ` [PATCH 3/9] signal/seccomp: Dump core when there is only one live thread Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-26  3:20                                           ` Kees Cook
2021-06-24 19:01                                         ` [PATCH 4/9] signal: Factor start_group_exit out of complete_signal Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-24 20:04                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2021-06-25  8:47                                           ` kernel test robot
2021-06-26  3:24                                           ` Kees Cook
2021-06-24 19:01                                         ` [PATCH 5/9] signal/group_exit: Use start_group_exit in place of do_group_exit Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-26  3:35                                           ` Kees Cook
2021-06-24 19:02                                         ` [PATCH 6/9] signal: Fold do_group_exit into get_signal fixing io_uring threads Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-26  3:42                                           ` Kees Cook
2021-06-28 19:25                                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-24 19:02                                         ` [PATCH 7/9] signal: Make individual tasks exiting a first class concept Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-24 20:11                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2021-06-24 21:37                                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-24 19:03                                         ` [PATCH 8/9] signal/task_exit: Use start_task_exit in place of do_exit Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-26  5:56                                           ` Kees Cook
2021-06-24 19:03                                         ` [PATCH 9/9] signal: Move PTRACE_EVENT_EXIT into get_signal Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-24 22:45                                         ` [PATCH 0/9] Refactoring exit Al Viro
2021-06-27 22:13                                           ` Al Viro
2021-06-27 22:59                                             ` Michael Schmitz
2021-06-28  7:31                                               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-06-28 16:20                                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-28 17:14                                                 ` Michael Schmitz
2021-06-28 19:17                                                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-06-28 20:13                                                     ` Michael Schmitz
2021-06-28 21:18                                                       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-06-28 23:42                                                         ` Michael Schmitz
2021-06-29 20:28                                                           ` [CFT][PATCH] exit/bdflush: Remove the deprecated bdflush system call Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-29 21:45                                                             ` Michael Schmitz
2021-06-30  8:24                                                             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-06-30  8:37                                                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-06-30 12:30                                                             ` Cyril Hrubis
2021-06-28 19:02                                           ` [PATCH 0/9] Refactoring exit Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-21 19:24                           ` Kernel stack read with PTRACE_EVENT_EXIT and io_uring threads Al Viro
2021-06-21 23:24                             ` Michael Schmitz
2021-06-16  7:38                     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-06-16 19:40                       ` Michael Schmitz

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