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From: Rasmus Villemoes <rasmus.villemoes@prevas.dk>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Rasmus Villemoes <linux@rasmusvillemoes.dk>
Cc: Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jessica Yu <jeyu@kernel.org>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] init/initramfs.c: allow asynchronous unpacking
Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2021 23:39:47 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9cf7863f-742b-1cfd-1027-04e314467e01@prevas.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wiK_0RATa3AnRSODtSN2X5Cc0RfudLpr16aLhwxoU1yEA@mail.gmail.com>

On 09/03/2021 23.07, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 1:17 PM Rasmus Villemoes
> <linux@rasmusvillemoes.dk> wrote:
>>
>> So add an initramfs_async= kernel parameter, allowing the main init
>> process to proceed to handling device_initcall()s without waiting for
>> populate_rootfs() to finish.
> 
> I like this smaller second version of the patch, but am wondering why
> we even need the parameter.
> 
> It sounds mostly like a "maybe I didn't think of all cases" thing -

That's exactly what it is.

> and one that will mean that this code will not see a lot of actual
> test coverage..

Yeah, that's probably true.

> And because of the lack of test coverage, I'd rather reverse the
> meaning, and have the async case on by default (without even the
> Kconfig option), and have the kernel command line purely as a "oops,
> it's buggy, easy to ask people to test if this is what ails them".

Well, I wasn't bold enough to make it "default y" by myself, but I can
certainly do that and nuke the config option.

> What *can* happen early boot outside of firmware loading and usermodehelpers?

Well, that was what I tried to get people to tell me when I sent the
first version as RFC, and also before that
(https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/19574912-44b4-c1dc-44c3-67309968d465@rasmusvillemoes.dk/).
That you can't think of anything suggests that I have covered the
important cases - which does leave random drivers that poke around the
filesystem on their own, but (a) it would probably be a good thing to
have this flush those out and (b) there's the command line option to
make it boot anyway.

Rasmus

  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-09 22:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-24 14:29 [PATCH/RFC 0/2] background initramfs unpacking, and CONFIG_MODPROBE_PATH Rasmus Villemoes
2021-02-24 14:29 ` [PATCH/RFC 1/2] init/initramfs.c: allow asynchronous unpacking Rasmus Villemoes
2021-02-24 17:17   ` Linus Torvalds
2021-02-24 22:13     ` Rasmus Villemoes
2021-03-02 16:26   ` Luis Chamberlain
2021-02-24 14:29 ` [PATCH/RFC 2/2] modules: add CONFIG_MODPROBE_PATH Rasmus Villemoes
2021-02-24 22:19 ` [PATCH/RFC 0/2] background initramfs unpacking, and CONFIG_MODPROBE_PATH Rasmus Villemoes
2021-03-09 21:16 ` [PATCH v2 " Rasmus Villemoes
2021-03-09 21:16   ` [PATCH v2 1/2] init/initramfs.c: allow asynchronous unpacking Rasmus Villemoes
2021-03-09 22:07     ` Linus Torvalds
2021-03-09 22:39       ` Rasmus Villemoes [this message]
2021-03-11 17:55       ` Luis Chamberlain
2021-03-09 22:16     ` Linus Torvalds
2021-03-09 22:51       ` Rasmus Villemoes
2021-03-11  0:17       ` Rasmus Villemoes
2021-03-11  1:45         ` Rasmus Villemoes
2021-03-11 18:02           ` Linus Torvalds
2021-03-13 13:13             ` Rasmus Villemoes
2021-03-09 21:17   ` [PATCH v2 2/2] modules: add CONFIG_MODPROBE_PATH Rasmus Villemoes
2021-03-10  9:46     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-03-11 13:28     ` Jessica Yu

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