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From: Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@gmail.com>
To: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
Cc: Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
	vivien.didelot@gmail.com, davem@davemloft.net,
	netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Georg Waibel <georg.waibel@sensor-technik.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 net-next 18/24] net: dsa: sja1105: Add support for traffic through standalone ports
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2019 01:30:46 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+h21hrGPfo4-QxMjG9hqitd6qBWEpcYHeqvyPzYMFpkSLbBQw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190414191318.GE10323@lunn.ch>

On Sun, 14 Apr 2019 at 22:13, Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch> wrote:
>
> On Sun, Apr 14, 2019 at 09:53:42PM +0300, Vladimir Oltean wrote:
> > On Sun, 14 Apr 2019 at 19:18, Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch> wrote:
> > >
> > > > > > > > +             return dsa_8021q_xmit(skb, netdev, ETH_P_EDSA,
> > > > > > > > +                                  ((pcp << VLAN_PRIO_SHIFT) | tx_vid));
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Please don't reuse ETH_P_EDSA. Define an ETH_P_SJA1105.
> > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > I'm receiving contradictory advice on this. Why should I define a new
> > > > ethertype, and if I do, what scope should the definition have (local
> > > > to the driver and the tagger, local to DSA, UAPI)?
> > >
> > > ETH_P_EDSA has a well defined meaning. It is a true global EtherType,
> > > and means a Marvell EtherType DSA header follows.
> > >
> > > You are polluting this meaning of ETH_P_EDSA. Would you put ETH_P_IP
> > > or ETH_P_8021AD here?
> > >
> > >    Andrew
> >
> > You are putting an equality sign here between things that are not quite equal.
> > The MEDSA EtherType is used for the same purpose as what I'm using it for.
>
> I don't think it is. tcpdump will match on this EtherType and decode
> what follows as an EDSA header, just in the same way it matches a
> ETH_P_IP and decodes what comes next as an IP packet. I also have
> wireshark patches, which i never submitted, which do the same.
>
> Please run tcpdump on the master interface with your test system and
> see what it does.
>
>     Andrew

It fails to decode the frames, obviously. But so does any other EtherType.
Florian was hinting
(https://lwn.net/ml/netdev/b52f4cdf-edcf-0757-1d6e-d4a831ec7943@gmail.com/)
at the recent pull requests submitted to tcpdump and libpcap that make
it possible to decode based on the string in
/sys/class/net/${master}/dsa/tagging. I admit I haven't actually
tested or studied those closely yet (there are more important things
to focus on ATM), but since my driver returns "8021q" in sysfs and
yours returns "edsa", I would presume tcpdump could use that
information. Anyway, since you obviously know more on this topic than
I do, please make me understand what are the real problems in spoofing
the Ethertype as a Marvell one.

Thanks,
-Vladimir

  reply	other threads:[~2019-04-14 22:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-04-13  1:27 [PATCH v3 net-next 00/24] NXP SJA1105 DSA driver Vladimir Oltean
2019-04-13  1:27 ` [PATCH v3 net-next 01/24] lib: Add support for generic packing operations Vladimir Oltean
2019-04-13  1:28 ` [PATCH v3 net-next 02/24] net: dsa: Fix pharse -> phase typo Vladimir Oltean
2019-04-13  1:28 ` [PATCH v3 net-next 03/24] net: dsa: Store vlan_filtering as a property of dsa_port Vladimir Oltean
2019-04-13  1:28 ` [PATCH v3 net-next 04/24] net: dsa: mt7530: Use vlan_filtering property from dsa_port Vladimir Oltean
2019-04-13  1:28 ` [PATCH v3 net-next 05/24] net: dsa: Add more convenient functions for installing port VLANs Vladimir Oltean
2019-04-16 23:49   ` Florian Fainelli
2019-04-13  1:28 ` [PATCH v3 net-next 06/24] net: dsa: Call driver's setup callback after setting up its switchdev notifier Vladimir Oltean
2019-04-13 15:05   ` Andrew Lunn
2019-04-13  1:28 ` [PATCH v3 net-next 07/24] net: dsa: Optional VLAN-based port separation for switches without tagging Vladimir Oltean
2019-04-13  1:28 ` [PATCH v3 net-next 08/24] net: dsa: Be aware of switches where VLAN filtering is a global setting Vladimir Oltean
2019-04-16 23:54   ` Florian Fainelli
2019-04-13  1:28 ` [PATCH v3 net-next 09/24] net: dsa: b53: Let DSA handle mismatched VLAN filtering settings Vladimir Oltean
2019-04-16 23:52   ` Florian Fainelli
2019-04-13  1:28 ` [PATCH v3 net-next 10/24] net: dsa: Unset vlan_filtering when ports leave the bridge Vladimir Oltean
2019-04-13 15:11   ` Andrew Lunn
2019-04-16 23:59   ` Florian Fainelli
2019-04-13  1:28 ` [PATCH v3 net-next 11/24] net: dsa: mt7530: Let DSA handle the unsetting of vlan_filtering Vladimir Oltean
2019-04-13 15:12   ` Andrew Lunn
2019-04-16 23:59   ` Florian Fainelli
2019-04-13  1:28 ` [PATCH v3 net-next 12/24] net: dsa: Copy the vlan_filtering setting on the CPU port if it's global Vladimir Oltean
2019-04-13 15:23   ` Andrew Lunn
2019-04-13 15:37     ` Vladimir Oltean
2019-04-13  1:28 ` [PATCH v3 net-next 13/24] net: dsa: Allow drivers to filter packets they can decode source port from Vladimir Oltean
2019-04-13 15:39   ` Andrew Lunn
2019-04-13 15:48     ` Vladimir Oltean
2019-04-13  1:28 ` [PATCH v3 net-next 14/24] net: dsa: Introduce driver for NXP SJA1105 5-port L2 switch Vladimir Oltean
2019-04-13 15:42   ` Andrew Lunn
2019-04-13 15:46     ` Vladimir Oltean
2019-04-13 16:44       ` Andrew Lunn
2019-04-13 21:29         ` Vladimir Oltean
2019-04-13  1:28 ` [PATCH v3 net-next 15/24] net: dsa: sja1105: Add support for FDB and MDB management Vladimir Oltean
2019-04-13 20:58   ` Jiri Pirko
2019-04-13  1:28 ` [PATCH v3 net-next 16/24] net: dsa: sja1105: Add support for VLAN operations Vladimir Oltean
2019-04-13 20:56   ` Jiri Pirko
2019-04-13 21:39     ` Vladimir Oltean
2019-04-13  1:28 ` [PATCH v3 net-next 17/24] net: dsa: sja1105: Add support for ethtool port counters Vladimir Oltean
2019-04-13 20:53   ` Jiri Pirko
2019-04-13 21:55     ` Vladimir Oltean
2019-04-14  8:34       ` Jiri Pirko
2019-04-13  1:28 ` [PATCH v3 net-next 18/24] net: dsa: sja1105: Add support for traffic through standalone ports Vladimir Oltean
2019-04-13 16:37   ` Andrew Lunn
2019-04-13 21:27     ` Vladimir Oltean
2019-04-13 22:08       ` Vladimir Oltean
2019-04-13 22:26         ` Vladimir Oltean
2019-04-14 16:17           ` Andrew Lunn
2019-04-14 18:53             ` Vladimir Oltean
2019-04-14 19:13               ` Andrew Lunn
2019-04-14 22:30                 ` Vladimir Oltean [this message]
2019-04-15  3:07                   ` Andrew Lunn
2019-04-17  0:09                     ` Florian Fainelli
2019-04-14 16:05       ` Andrew Lunn
2019-04-14 18:42         ` Vladimir Oltean
2019-04-14 19:06           ` Andrew Lunn
2019-04-17  0:16       ` Florian Fainelli
2019-04-13  1:28 ` [PATCH v3 net-next 19/24] net: dsa: sja1105: Add support for Spanning Tree Protocol Vladimir Oltean
2019-04-13 16:41   ` Andrew Lunn
2019-04-13  1:28 ` [PATCH v3 net-next 20/24] net: dsa: sja1105: Error out if RGMII delays are requested in DT Vladimir Oltean
2019-04-13 16:49   ` Andrew Lunn
2019-04-13 20:47   ` Jiri Pirko
2019-04-13 21:31     ` Vladimir Oltean
2019-04-14  8:35       ` Jiri Pirko
2019-04-13  1:28 ` [PATCH v3 net-next 21/24] net: dsa: sja1105: Prevent PHY jabbering during switch reset Vladimir Oltean
2019-04-13 16:54   ` Andrew Lunn
2019-04-13  1:28 ` [PATCH v3 net-next 22/24] net: dsa: sja1105: Reject unsupported link modes for AN Vladimir Oltean
2019-04-13  1:28 ` [PATCH v3 net-next 23/24] Documentation: net: dsa: Add details about NXP SJA1105 driver Vladimir Oltean
2019-04-17  0:20   ` Florian Fainelli
2019-04-13  1:28 ` [PATCH v3 net-next 24/24] dt-bindings: net: dsa: Add documentation for " Vladimir Oltean

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