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From: James Y Knight <jyknight@google.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: mka@chromium.org, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	arnd@arndb.de, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	tglx@linutronix.de, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Chandler Carruth <chandlerc@google.com>,
	Stephen Hines <srhines@google.com>,
	Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@google.com>,
	groeck@chromium.org, Greg Hackmann <ghackmann@google.com>,
	gregkh@linuxfoundation.org
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] x86/build changes for v4.17
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2018 17:46:58 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAA2zVHraWtmmW1yFvVH+kUbih5wxiDLuM=wArnQanrWN9NF=Xw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180405072017.GN4043@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

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On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 3:20 AM Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 04, 2018 at 04:31:11PM -0700, Matthias Kaehlcke wrote:
>
> > From some experiments it looks like clang, in difference to gcc, does
> > not treat constant values passed as parameters to inline function as
> > constants.
>
> Then you're also missing a heap of optimizations in code like
> rb_erase_augmented() which is specifically constructed to take advantage
> of constant propagation like that.
>
> Other sites where we expect that to happen is __mutex_lock_common(),
> __update_load_sum() and a bunch of others. There isn't strictly a bug
> here, but not doing that constant propagation will still result in shit
> code gen.
>

I think maybe you're confused; those functions do not appear to use
__builtin_constant_p, which is the issue at hand. Clang's optimizer is of
course not a complete joke...it can perfectly well optimize functions after
inlining in order to not generate "shit code gen".

GCC, however, mixes up the concept of a C "constant expression" with the
results of running optimization passes such as inlining for its
definition/implementation of __builtin_constant_p. Clang does not, and
quite likely will not ever, do that.

That said, I do believe there are ongoing discussions as to how to best
provide a useful alternative which is less semantically strange, and not
too difficult for to conditionally adopt for a gcc/clang-compatible
codebase such as the kernel.

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  reply	other threads:[~2018-04-05 17:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-02  9:50 [GIT PULL] x86/build changes for v4.17 Ingo Molnar
2018-04-02 21:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-04-02 22:38   ` Matthias Kaehlcke
2018-04-03  1:26     ` Matthias Kaehlcke
2018-04-03  8:59   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-04-03  9:51     ` Ingo Molnar
2018-04-03 12:09       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-04-03 18:06       ` Matthias Kaehlcke
2018-04-03 21:58         ` Nick Desaulniers
2018-04-04  9:19           ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-04-04  9:38           ` Greg KH
2018-04-04 16:49             ` Nick Desaulniers
2018-04-04 17:13               ` Linus Torvalds
2018-04-04 17:46                 ` Nick Desaulniers
2018-04-04 23:10                 ` Nick Desaulniers
2018-04-04 16:53             ` Nick Desaulniers
2018-04-04 16:59               ` Greg KH
2018-04-04 19:26                 ` James Y Knight
2018-04-04 19:42                   ` Linus Torvalds
2018-04-04 22:21                     ` James Y Knight
2018-04-04 22:29                       ` Linus Torvalds
2018-04-05  7:08                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-04-05 16:21                         ` James Y Knight
2018-04-04 19:32               ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-06-07 19:23                 ` Nick Desaulniers
2018-06-07 20:11                   ` Greg KH
2018-04-04  9:30         ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-04-04 19:17           ` Matthias Kaehlcke
2018-04-04 20:33             ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-04-04 20:58               ` Matthias Kaehlcke
2018-04-04 21:11                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-04-04 21:46                   ` Matthias Kaehlcke
2018-04-04 21:59                     ` Linus Torvalds
2018-04-04 22:17                       ` Matthias Kaehlcke
2018-04-04 22:39                         ` Linus Torvalds
2018-04-04 23:31                           ` Matthias Kaehlcke
2018-04-05  0:05                             ` Linus Torvalds
2018-04-05  0:20                               ` Kees Cook
2018-04-05  7:24                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-04-05  8:04                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2018-04-05  8:24                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-04-05 16:43                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-04-05  7:20                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-04-05 17:46                               ` James Y Knight [this message]
2018-04-05 18:06                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-04-05 20:51                                   ` James Y Knight
2018-04-05 21:13                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2018-04-05 22:51                                       ` James Y Knight
2018-04-06  2:02                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2018-04-05 17:47                               ` James Y Knight
2018-04-04 23:04             ` Nick Desaulniers
2018-04-03 17:36     ` Linus Torvalds

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