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From: Arul Jeniston <arul.jeniston@gmail.com>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, arul_mc@dell.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] FS: timerfd: Fix unexpected return value of timerfd_read function.
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2019 22:06:39 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACAVd4hS1i--fxWaarXP2psagW-JmBoLAJRrfu9gkRc49Ja4pg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.21.1909051707150.1902@nanos.tec.linutronix.de>

Hi tglx,

>Changing the return value to 1 would be just a cosmetic workaround.

Agreed. Returning 1 is incorrect as It causes the next read() to
return before the interval time passed.

>So I rather change the documentation (this applies only to CLOCK_REALTIME
>and CLOCK_REALTIME_ALARM) and explain the rationale.

When timerfd_read() returns 0, hrtimer_forward() doesn't change expiry
time, So, instead of modifying the man page, can we call
timerfd_read() functionality once again from kernel.

For example:-
timerfd_read_wrapper()
{
   do {
     ret = timerfd_read(...);
   } while (ret == 0);
}

Let us know whether you see any problem in handling this race in kernel.

Regards,
Arul


On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 9:04 PM Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de> wrote:
>
> Arul,
>
> On Thu, 5 Sep 2019, Arul Jeniston wrote:
> > When we adjust the date setting using date command we observed
> > 'timerfd_read()' on CLOCK_REALTIME (TFD_TIMER_ABSTIME flag is set)
> > returns 0.
> > we don't see any hardware influence here and we are able to recreate
> > it consistently. Is it expected? if yes, isn't it something to be
> > documented in timerfd read() man page?
>
> It's expected, yes. Simply because it hits the following condition:
>
>      armtimer(T1)
>
>      settime(T1 + X)  --> causes timer to fire
>
>                                  wakeup reader
>      settime(T0)
>
>                                  read number of intervals: 0
>
>                                  i.e. timer did not expire
>
> Changing the return value to 1 would be just a cosmetic workaround. We
> could also jump back and wait again. But that's all not consistent because
>
>      armtimer(T1)
>
>      settime(T1 + X)  --> causes timer to fire
>
>                                  wakeup reader
>
>                                  read number of intervals: 1
>      settime(T0)
>
>                                  user space reads time and figures that
>                                  the returned tick is bogus.
>
> So I rather change the documentation (this applies only to CLOCK_REALTIME
> and CLOCK_REALTIME_ALARM) and explain the rationale.
>
> For applications which care about notifications when the time was set,
> timerfd_settime() provides TFD_TIMER_CANCEL_ON_SET which causes the timer
> to be canceled when time is set and returns -ECANCELED from the
> read. That's unambiguous.
>
> Thanks,
>
>         tglx

  reply	other threads:[~2019-09-06 16:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-16  8:32 [PATCH] FS: timerfd: Fix unexpected return value of timerfd_read function. 'hrtimer_forward_now()' returns zero due to bigger backward time drift. This causes timerfd_read to return 0. As per man page, read on timerfd is not expected to return 0. This patch fixes this problem. Signed-off-by: Arul Jeniston <arul.jeniston@gmail.com> arul.jeniston
2019-08-16  9:05 ` [PATCH] FS: timerfd: [Trimmed unreadable long subject line ] Thomas Gleixner
2019-08-16 10:22 ` [PATCH] FS: timerfd: Fix unexpected return value of timerfd_read function Arul Jeniston
2019-08-16 10:45   ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-08-16 16:55     ` Arul Jeniston
2019-08-16 17:00       ` Arul Jeniston
2019-08-16 21:17         ` Thomas Gleixner
     [not found]           ` <CACAVd4hT6QYtgtDsBcgy7c_s9WVBAH+1m0r5geBe7BUWJWYhbA@mail.gmail.com>
2019-08-17 19:23             ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-08-19  6:07               ` Arul Jeniston
2019-08-19  8:04                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-08-19 14:25                   ` Arul Jeniston
2019-08-19 14:52                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-08-19 15:26                       ` Arul Jeniston
2019-08-19 15:59                         ` Thomas Gleixner
     [not found]                           ` <CACAVd4iRN7=eq_B1+Yb-xcspU-Sg1dmMo_=VtLXXVPkjN1hY5Q@mail.gmail.com>
2019-08-19 18:29                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-08-20  6:11                               ` Arul Jeniston
2019-08-20  8:49                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-08-20  9:42                                   ` Arul Jeniston
2019-09-05  8:48                                     ` Arul Jeniston
2019-09-05 15:34                                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-09-06 16:36                                         ` Arul Jeniston [this message]
2019-09-07 14:38                                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-11-05  5:01                                             ` Arul Jeniston
2019-11-05 10:01                                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-11-06  3:38                                                 ` Arul Jeniston
2020-02-12 18:14                                                   ` Arul Jeniston
2020-02-13 12:11                                                     ` Thomas Gleixner

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