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From: Kyle Evans <kevans@freebsd.org>
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Cc: Szabolcs Nagy <nsz@port70.net>,
	Christian Brauner <christian.brauner@ubuntu.com>,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Victor Stinner <victor.stinner@gmail.com>,
	viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-api@vger.kernel.org, fweimer@redhat.com, jannh@google.com,
	oleg@redhat.com, arnd@arndb.de, shuah@kernel.org,
	dhowells@redhat.com, ldv@altlinux.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 1/3] open: add close_range()
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2020 22:11:14 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACNAnaGKr2WMGhiXUb4_HVQCKwe5RH7fTNuRHuwCtbfnBK-gXQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACNAnaEjjQBB8ieZH+td8jk-Aitg3CjGB1WwGQwEv-STg5Do+g@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 9:54 PM Kyle Evans <kevans@freebsd.org> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 9:55 AM Szabolcs Nagy <nsz@port70.net> wrote:
> >
> > * Christian Brauner <christian.brauner@ubuntu.com> [2020-06-02 22:42:17 +0200]:
> > > [... snip ...]
> > >
> > > First, it helps to close all file descriptors of an exec()ing task. This
> > > can be done safely via (quoting Al's example from [1] verbatim):
> > >
> > >         /* that exec is sensitive */
> > >         unshare(CLONE_FILES);
> > >         /* we don't want anything past stderr here */
> > >         close_range(3, ~0U);
> > >         execve(....);
> >
> > this api needs a documentation patch if there isn't yet.
> >
> > currently there is no libc interface contract in place that
> > says which calls may use libc internal fds e.g. i've seen
> >
> >   openlog(...) // opens libc internal syslog fd
> >   ...
> >   fork()
> >   closefrom(...) // close syslog fd
> >   open(...) // something that reuses the closed fd
> >   syslog(...) // unsafe: uses the wrong fd
> >   execve(...)
> >
> > syslog uses a libc internal fd that the user trampled on and
> > this can go bad in many ways depending on what libc apis are
> > used between closefrom (or equivalent) and exec.
> >
>
> Documentation is good. :-) I think you'll find that while this example
> seems to be innocuous on FreeBSD (and likely other *BSD), this is an
> atypical scenario and generally not advised.  You would usually not
> start closing until you're actually ready to exec/fail.
>

Minor correction: not innocuous here, either; O_CLOFORK is not yet a thing. :-)

  reply	other threads:[~2020-06-06  3:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-02 20:42 [PATCH v5 0/3] close_range() Christian Brauner
2020-06-02 20:42 ` [PATCH v5 1/3] open: add close_range() Christian Brauner
2020-06-02 23:30   ` Florian Weimer
2020-06-02 23:37     ` Christian Brauner
2020-06-03 10:24   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-09-17  7:52     ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-06-05 14:55   ` Szabolcs Nagy
2020-06-06  2:54     ` Kyle Evans
2020-06-06  3:11       ` Kyle Evans [this message]
2020-06-06 11:55       ` Szabolcs Nagy
2020-06-06 14:43         ` Kyle Evans
2020-06-07 13:22     ` David Laight
2020-06-02 20:42 ` [PATCH v5 2/3] arch: wire-up close_range() Christian Brauner
2020-06-02 20:42 ` [PATCH v5 3/3] tests: add close_range() tests Christian Brauner
2020-06-02 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 0/3] close_range() Linus Torvalds
2020-06-02 23:33   ` Christian Brauner
2020-06-03  0:08     ` Linus Torvalds
2020-06-03 23:24       ` Christian Brauner
2020-06-04  0:13         ` Linus Torvalds
2020-06-04  1:15           ` Christian Brauner
2020-06-07 12:31         ` David Laight

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