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[209.85.208.179]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id h17sm8821lfc.289.2021.03.04.09.58.01 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 04 Mar 2021 09:58:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-lj1-f179.google.com with SMTP id u18so20801195ljd.3 for ; Thu, 04 Mar 2021 09:58:01 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 2002:a2e:864d:: with SMTP id i13mr2844609ljj.48.1614880680763; Thu, 04 Mar 2021 09:58:00 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20210304124314.GA9979@duo.ucw.cz> In-Reply-To: <20210304124314.GA9979@duo.ucw.cz> From: Linus Torvalds Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2021 09:57:44 -0800 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: A note on the 5.12-rc1 tag To: Pavel Machek , Krzysztof Kozlowski Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 4:43 AM Pavel Machek wrote: > > Would it make sense to do a -rc2, now, so new topic branches can be > started on that one? I was planning on doing an rc2 earlier, just not "this minute" early. I was expecting to see a few more of the normal fixes pulls come in, and perhaps do it Friday instead of the usual Sunday. Because regardless of an accelerated rc2, I thought it was much more important to rename rc1 and let people know to avoid it. And yes, obviously it was inevitably too late for some people, but doing an rc2 wouldn't have helped those people either. So the most important part was making rc1 itself less reachable by doing that "dontuse" rename. (And I should probably have done that rename even earlier, but I was waiting to see if I could get more confirmation that it really was fixed. And in hindsight that was entirely pointless and stupid of me - we knew there was some serious rc1 problem, and the renaming had nothing to do with whether it was fixed or not. Oh well. Water under the bridge). But I also can heartily just recommend that people who already _did_ start on rc1 to rebase their current - hopefully not extensive - work. I know I've ranted about rebasing for years, and it has huge downsides, but the operation does exist because sometimes you just need to fix serious errors. So _mindful_ rebasing, understanding why it shouldn't be a normal thing, but doing it when something exceptional happens - that's not wrong. Linus