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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: paulmck@kernel.org
Cc: Marco Elver <elver@google.com>,
	Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>,
	 Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>,
	 syzbot <syzbot+b7c3ba8cdc2f6cf83c21@syzkaller.appspotmail.com>,
	 linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, syzkaller-bugs@googlegroups.com,
	 Nathan Chancellor <nathan@kernel.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@kernel.org>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	 Jiri Slaby <jirislaby@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] tty: tty_io: remove hung_up_tty_fops
Date: Wed, 1 May 2024 11:56:26 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHk-=wi3iondeh_9V2g3Qz5oHTRjLsOpoy83hb58MVh=nRZe0A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d4de136e-c4e0-45c2-b33e-9a819cb3a791@paulmck-laptop>

On Wed, 1 May 2024 at 11:46, Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> In short, I for one do greatly value KCSAN's help.  Along with that of
> a great many other tools, none of which are perfect, but all of which
> are helpful.

It's not that I don't value what KCSAN does, but I really think this
is a KCSAN issue.

I absolutely *detest* these crazy "randomly add data race annotations".

Could we instead annotate particular structure fields? I don't want to
mark things actually "volatile", because that then causes the compiler
to generate absolutely horrendous code. But some KCSAN equivalent of
"this field has data races, and we don't care" kind of annotation
would be lovely..

                 Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2024-05-01 18:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-04-21  8:18 [syzbot] [kernel?] KCSAN: data-race in __fput / __tty_hangup (4) syzbot
2023-04-21  8:21 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2023-04-21 15:12   ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-04-21 16:02     ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-04-23 23:34     ` Al Viro
2023-04-23 23:55       ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-04-24  0:44         ` Al Viro
2023-04-24  1:09           ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-04-25 14:47             ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-04-25 16:03               ` Al Viro
2023-04-25 22:09                 ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-04-26 11:05                   ` [PATCH] tty: tty_io: remove hung_up_tty_fops Tetsuo Handa
2023-04-28 16:27                     ` Nathan Chancellor
2023-04-28 16:41                       ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-04-28 17:11                         ` Al Viro
2023-04-29 10:43                           ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-04-28 17:31                         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-04-29 15:21                           ` Guenter Roeck
2023-05-01 18:42                             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-05-14  1:02                     ` [PATCH v2] " Tetsuo Handa
2023-05-30 10:44                       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-05-30 11:57                         ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-05-30 12:51                           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2024-04-27  6:20                             ` [PATCH v3] " Tetsuo Handa
2024-04-27 19:02                               ` Linus Torvalds
2024-04-28 10:19                                 ` Tetsuo Handa
2024-04-28 18:50                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2024-04-29 13:55                                     ` Marco Elver
2024-04-29 15:38                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-01 18:45                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-05-01 18:56                                           ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2024-05-01 19:02                                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-05-01 20:14                                               ` Marco Elver
2024-05-01 21:06                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-01 21:20                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-01 21:49                                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-05-01 22:32                                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-05-02 16:37                                                         ` Boqun Feng
2024-05-03 23:59                                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-05-04  0:14                                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-04  5:08                                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-05-04 17:50                                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-04 18:18                                                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-05-04 19:11                                                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-04 19:25                                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-04 22:17                                                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-05-04 22:04                                                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-05-02 14:14                                                   ` Marco Elver
2024-05-02 16:42                                                     ` Tetsuo Handa
2024-05-02 17:20                                                       ` Marco Elver
2024-05-02 17:29                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-02 18:14                                                         ` Al Viro
2024-05-02 19:29                                                           ` Marco Elver
2024-05-02 23:54                                                         ` Tetsuo Handa
2024-05-03  1:12                                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2023-04-23 13:28   ` [syzbot] [kernel?] KCSAN: data-race in __fput / __tty_hangup (4) Tetsuo Handa
2023-04-23 14:00     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-04-23 14:03     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-04-23 14:17       ` Tetsuo Handa

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