From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Russell King - ARM Linux admin <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
Cc: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Chris Metcalf <cmetcalf@ezchip.com>,
Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>, Kirill Tkhai <tkhai@yandex.ru>,
Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
Linux List Kernel Mailing <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [BUG] Use of probe_kernel_address() in task_rcu_dereference() without checking return value
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2019 08:41:03 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHk-=wiSFvb7djwa7D=-rVtnq3C5msh3u=CF7CVoU6hTJ=VdLw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=whuggNup=-MOS=7gBkuRqUigk7ABot_Pxi5koF=dM3S5Q@mail.gmail.com>
On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 8:30 AM Linus Torvalds
<torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
>
> Do you actually see that behavior?
>
> Because the foillowing lines:
>
> smp_rmb();
> if (unlikely(task != READ_ONCE(*ptask)))
> goto retry;
Side note: that code had better not be performance-critical, because
"probe_kernel_address()" is actually really really slow.
We really should do a real set of "read kernel with fault handling" functions.
We have *one* right now: load_unaligned_zeropad(), but that one
assumes that at least the first byte is valid and that the fault can
only be because of unaligned page crossers.
The problem with "probe_kernel_address()" is that it really just
re-uses the user access functions, and then plays games to make them
work for kernel addresses. Games we shouldn't play, and it's all very
expensive when it really shouldn't need to be. Including changing
limits, but also doing all the system instructions to allow user
accesses (PAN on ARM, clac/stac on x86).
Doing a set of "access kernel with error handling" should be trivial,
it's just that every architecture needs to do it. So we'd probably
need to do something where architectures can say "I have it", and fall
back on the silly legacy implementation otherwise..
Linus
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-08-30 15:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-08-30 14:08 [BUG] Use of probe_kernel_address() in task_rcu_dereference() without checking return value Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2019-08-30 15:24 ` Oleg Nesterov
2019-08-30 15:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-08-30 15:40 ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2019-08-30 15:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-08-30 15:41 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2019-08-30 16:09 ` Oleg Nesterov
2019-08-30 16:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-08-30 16:44 ` Oleg Nesterov
2019-08-30 16:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-08-30 19:36 ` Eric W. Biederman
2019-09-02 13:40 ` Oleg Nesterov
2019-09-02 13:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-09-02 14:44 ` Oleg Nesterov
2019-09-02 16:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-09-02 17:04 ` Eric W. Biederman
2019-09-02 17:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-09-03 4:50 ` [PATCH 0/3] task: Making tasks on the runqueue rcu protected Eric W. Biederman
2019-09-03 4:51 ` [PATCH 1/3] task: Add a count of task rcu users Eric W. Biederman
2019-09-04 14:36 ` Oleg Nesterov
2019-09-04 14:44 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2019-09-04 15:32 ` Oleg Nesterov
2019-09-04 16:33 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2019-09-04 18:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-09-05 14:59 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2019-09-03 4:52 ` [PATCH 2/3] task: RCU protect tasks on the runqueue Eric W. Biederman
2019-09-03 7:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-09-03 7:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-09-03 16:44 ` Eric W. Biederman
2019-09-03 17:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-09-03 18:13 ` Eric W. Biederman
2019-09-03 19:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-09-03 20:06 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-09-03 21:32 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-09-05 20:02 ` Eric W. Biederman
2019-09-05 20:55 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-09-06 7:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-09-09 12:22 ` Eric W. Biederman
2019-09-25 7:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-09-27 8:10 ` [tip: sched/urgent] tasks, sched/core: RCUify the assignment of rq->curr tip-bot2 for Eric W. Biederman
2019-09-03 19:42 ` [PATCH 2/3] task: RCU protect tasks on the runqueue Peter Zijlstra
2019-09-14 12:31 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] task: Add a count of task rcu users Eric W. Biederman
2019-09-14 12:31 ` [PATCH v2 2/4] task: Ensure tasks are available for a grace period after leaving the runqueue Eric W. Biederman
2019-09-14 12:32 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] task: With a grace period after finish_task_switch, remove unnecessary code Eric W. Biederman
2019-09-04 14:22 ` [PATCH 2/3] task: RCU protect tasks on the runqueue Frederic Weisbecker
2019-09-03 4:52 ` [PATCH 3/3] task: Clean house now that tasks on the runqueue are rcu protected Eric W. Biederman
2019-09-03 9:45 ` kbuild test robot
2019-09-03 13:06 ` Oleg Nesterov
2019-09-03 13:58 ` [PATCH 0/3] task: Making tasks on the runqueue " Oleg Nesterov
2019-09-03 15:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-09-03 19:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
[not found] ` <87muf7f4bf.fsf_-_@x220.int.ebiederm.org>
2019-09-14 12:33 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] task: Add a count of task rcu users Eric W. Biederman
2019-09-15 13:54 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-09-27 8:10 ` [tip: sched/urgent] tasks: Add a count of task RCU users tip-bot2 for Eric W. Biederman
2019-09-14 12:33 ` [PATCH v2 2/4] task: Ensure tasks are available for a grace period after leaving the runqueue Eric W. Biederman
2019-09-15 14:07 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-09-15 14:09 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-09-27 8:10 ` [tip: sched/urgent] tasks, sched/core: " tip-bot2 for Eric W. Biederman
2019-09-14 12:34 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] task: With a grace period after finish_task_switch, remove unnecessary code Eric W. Biederman
2019-09-15 14:32 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-09-15 17:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-09-15 18:47 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-09-27 8:10 ` [tip: sched/urgent] tasks, sched/core: With a grace period after finish_task_switch(), " tip-bot2 for Eric W. Biederman
2019-09-14 12:35 ` [PATCH v2 4/4] task: RCUify the assignment of rq->curr Eric W. Biederman
2019-09-15 14:41 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-09-15 17:59 ` Eric W. Biederman
2019-09-15 18:25 ` Eric W. Biederman
2019-09-15 18:48 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-09-20 23:02 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2019-09-26 1:49 ` Eric W. Biederman
2019-09-26 12:42 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2019-09-14 17:43 ` [PATCH v2 0/4] task: Making tasks on the runqueue rcu protected Linus Torvalds
2019-09-17 17:38 ` Eric W. Biederman
2019-09-25 7:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-09-26 1:11 ` Eric W. Biederman
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