From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: Jiri Kosina <jikos@kernel.org>, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Linux List Kernel Mailing <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
Dominique Martinet <asmadeus@codewreck.org>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
Kevin Easton <kevin@guarana.org>,
Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
Cyril Hrubis <chrubis@suse.cz>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
"Kirill A . Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
Daniel Gruss <daniel@gruss.cc>,
linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] mm/filemap: initiate readahead even if IOCB_NOWAIT is set for the I/O
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2019 09:54:16 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHk-=wjkiNPWb97JXV6=J6DzscB1g7moGJ6G_nSe=AEbMugTNw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190131102348.GT18811@dhcp22.suse.cz>
On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 2:23 AM Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> OK, I guess my question was not precise. What does prevent taking fs
> locks down the path?
IOCB_NOWAIT has never meant that, and will never mean it.
We will never give user space those kinds of guarantees. We do locking
for various reasons. For example, we'll do the mm lock just when
fetching/storing data from/to user space if there's a page fault. Or -
more obviously - we'll also check for - and sleep on - mandatory locks
in rw_verify_area().
There is nothing like "atomic IO" to user space. We simply do not give
those kinds of guarantees. That's even more true when this is a
information leak that we shouldn't expose to user space in the first
place.
Linus
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-01-31 17:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 161+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-01-05 17:27 [PATCH] mm/mincore: allow for making sys_mincore() privileged Jiri Kosina
2019-01-05 19:14 ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-01-05 19:24 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-01-05 19:38 ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-01-08 9:14 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2019-01-08 11:37 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-01-08 13:53 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2019-01-08 14:08 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2019-01-05 19:44 ` kbuild test robot
2019-01-05 19:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-05 20:12 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-01-05 20:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-05 20:43 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-01-05 21:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-06 11:33 ` Kevin Easton
2019-01-08 8:50 ` Kevin Easton
2019-01-18 14:23 ` Tejun Heo
2019-01-05 20:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-05 19:56 ` kbuild test robot
2019-01-05 22:54 ` Jann Horn
2019-01-05 23:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-05 23:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-05 23:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-05 23:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-06 0:11 ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-01-06 0:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-06 1:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-06 21:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-08 4:43 ` Dave Chinner
2019-01-08 17:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-09 2:24 ` Dave Chinner
2019-01-09 2:31 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-01-09 4:39 ` Dave Chinner
2019-01-09 10:08 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-01-10 1:15 ` Dave Chinner
2019-01-10 7:54 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-01-09 18:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-10 0:44 ` Dave Chinner
2019-01-10 1:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-10 5:26 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-01-10 14:47 ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-01-10 21:44 ` Dave Chinner
2019-01-10 21:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-11 1:47 ` Dave Chinner
2019-01-10 7:03 ` Dave Chinner
2019-01-10 11:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-10 12:24 ` Dominique Martinet
2019-01-10 22:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-11 2:03 ` Dave Chinner
2019-01-11 2:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-11 4:04 ` Dave Chinner
2019-01-11 4:08 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-01-11 7:20 ` Dave Chinner
2019-01-11 7:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-11 7:36 ` Dave Chinner
2019-01-11 16:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-15 23:45 ` Dave Chinner
2019-01-16 4:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-16 5:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-17 1:26 ` Dave Chinner
2019-02-20 15:49 ` Nicolai Stange
2019-01-11 4:57 ` Dominique Martinet
2019-01-11 7:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-11 7:32 ` Dominique Martinet
2019-01-16 0:42 ` Josh Snyder
2019-01-16 5:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-16 5:25 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-01-16 5:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-16 5:46 ` Dominique Martinet
2019-01-16 5:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-16 6:34 ` Dominique Martinet
2019-01-16 7:52 ` Josh Snyder
2019-01-16 12:18 ` Kevin Easton
2019-01-17 21:45 ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-01-18 4:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-18 18:58 ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-01-16 16:12 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-01-16 17:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-16 20:23 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-01-16 21:37 ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-01-16 21:41 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-01-17 9:52 ` Cyril Hrubis
2019-01-28 13:49 ` Cyril Hrubis
2019-01-17 4:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-18 4:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-17 1:49 ` Dominique Martinet
2019-01-23 20:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-23 20:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-23 23:12 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-01-24 0:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-01-24 0:24 ` Dominique Martinet
2019-01-24 12:45 ` Dominique Martinet
2019-01-24 14:25 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-01-27 22:35 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-01-28 0:05 ` Dominique Martinet
2019-01-29 23:52 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-01-30 9:09 ` Michal Hocko
2019-01-30 12:29 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-01-16 12:36 ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-01-10 14:50 ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-01-11 7:36 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-01-17 2:22 ` Dave Chinner
2019-01-17 8:18 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-01-17 21:06 ` Dave Chinner
2019-01-07 4:32 ` Dominique Martinet
2019-01-07 10:33 ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-01-07 11:08 ` Dominique Martinet
2019-01-07 11:59 ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-01-07 13:29 ` Daniel Gruss
2019-01-07 10:10 ` Michael Ellerman
2019-01-05 23:09 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-01-30 12:44 ` [PATCH 0/3] mincore() and IOCB_NOWAIT adjustments Vlastimil Babka
2019-01-30 12:44 ` [PATCH 1/3] mm/mincore: make mincore() more conservative Vlastimil Babka
2019-01-31 9:43 ` Michal Hocko
2019-01-31 9:51 ` Dominique Martinet
2019-01-31 17:46 ` Josh Snyder
2019-02-01 8:56 ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-03-06 23:13 ` Andrew Morton
2019-03-07 0:01 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-03-07 0:40 ` Dominique Martinet
2019-03-07 5:46 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-01-30 12:44 ` [PATCH 2/3] mm/filemap: initiate readahead even if IOCB_NOWAIT is set for the I/O Vlastimil Babka
2019-01-30 15:04 ` Florian Weimer
2019-01-30 15:15 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-01-31 10:47 ` Florian Weimer
2019-01-31 11:34 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-01-31 9:56 ` Michal Hocko
2019-01-31 10:15 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-01-31 10:23 ` Michal Hocko
2019-01-31 10:30 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-01-31 11:32 ` Michal Hocko
2019-01-31 17:54 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2019-02-01 5:13 ` Dave Chinner
2019-02-01 7:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-02-01 7:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-02-01 1:44 ` Dave Chinner
2019-02-12 15:48 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-01-31 12:04 ` Daniel Gruss
2019-01-31 12:06 ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-01-31 12:08 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-01-31 12:57 ` Daniel Gruss
2019-01-30 12:44 ` [PATCH 3/3] mm/mincore: provide mapped status when cached status is not allowed Vlastimil Babka
2019-01-31 10:09 ` Michal Hocko
2019-02-01 9:04 ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-02-01 9:11 ` Michal Hocko
2019-02-01 9:27 ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-02-06 20:14 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-02-12 3:44 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-02-12 6:36 ` Michal Hocko
2019-02-12 13:09 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-02-12 14:01 ` Michal Hocko
2019-03-06 12:11 ` [PATCH 0/3] mincore() and IOCB_NOWAIT adjustments Jiri Kosina
2019-03-06 22:35 ` Andrew Morton
2019-03-06 22:48 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-03-06 23:23 ` Andrew Morton
2019-03-06 23:32 ` Dominique Martinet
2019-03-06 23:38 ` Andrew Morton
2019-03-09 16:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-03-12 14:17 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] prevent mincore() page cache leaks Vlastimil Babka
2019-03-12 14:17 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] mm/mincore: make mincore() more conservative Vlastimil Babka
2019-03-12 14:17 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] mm/mincore: provide mapped status when cached status is not allowed Vlastimil Babka
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