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From: "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	clemens@ladisch.de, Sultan Alsawaf <sultan@kerneltoast.com>,
	Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>, X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: infinite loop in read_hpet from ktime_get_boot_fast_ns
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2019 11:44:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHmME9obwzZ5x=p3twDfNYux+kg0h4QAGe0ePAkZ2KqvguBK3g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190612090257.GF3436@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

Hey Peter,

On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 11:03 AM Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> How quasi? Do the comments in kernel/sched/clock.c look like something
> you could use?
>
> As already mentioned in the other tasks, anything ktime will be
> horrifically crap when it ends up using the HPET, the code in
> kernel/sched/clock.c is a best effort to keep using TSC even when it is
> deemed unusable for timekeeping.

Thanks for pointing that out. Indeed the HPET path is a bummer and I'd
like to just escape using ktime all together.

In fact, my accuracy requirements are very lax. I could probably even
deal with an inaccuracy as huge as ~200 milliseconds. But what I do
need is 64-bit, so that it doesn't wrap, allowing me to compare two
stamps taken a long time apart, and for it to take into account sleep
time, like CLOCK_BOOTTIME does, which means get_jiffies_64() doesn't
fit the bill. I was under the impression that I could only get this
with ktime_get_boot & co, because those add the sleep offset.

It looks like, though, kernel/sched/clock.c keeps track of some
offsets too -- __sched_clock_offset and __gtod_offset, and the comment
at the top mentions explicit sleep hooks. I wasn't sure which function
to use from here, though. sched_clock() seems based on jiffies, which
has the 32-bit wraparound issue, and the base implementation doesn't
seem to take into account sleeptime. The x86 implementation seems use
rdtsc and then adds cyc2ns_offset which looks to be based on
cyc2ns_suspend, which I assume is what I want. But there's still the
issue of the 32-bit wraparound on the base implementation.

I guess you know this code better than my quick perusal. Is there some
clock in here that doesn't have a wrap around issue and takes into
account sleeptime, without being super slow like ktime/hpet?

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2019-06-12  9:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-06-07 14:14 infinite loop in read_hpet from ktime_get_boot_fast_ns Jason A. Donenfeld
2019-06-11 21:09 ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-06-11 21:40   ` Waiman Long
2019-06-12  9:02   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-06-12  9:44     ` Jason A. Donenfeld [this message]
2019-06-12 12:28       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-06-12 12:31         ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-06-12 12:58         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2019-06-12 15:27           ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-06-12 19:46         ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-06-18 17:34         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2019-06-12 14:01       ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-06-13 15:18         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2019-06-13 15:40           ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-06-13 16:17             ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2019-06-13 16:26               ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-06-13 16:34                 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2019-06-13 16:41                   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2019-06-13 19:53                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-06-14  9:14                     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2019-06-14  9:44                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-06-14  9:56                         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2019-06-14  9:48                       ` [PATCH] timekeeping: add get_jiffies_boot_64() for jiffies including sleep Jason A. Donenfeld
2019-06-14  9:55                     ` [tip:timers/urgent] timekeeping: Repair ktime_get_coarse*() granularity tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2019-06-14 11:18                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-06-12  9:29   ` infinite loop in read_hpet from ktime_get_boot_fast_ns Peter Zijlstra

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