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From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@kernel.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>,
	linux-arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	Vineet Gupta <vgupta@synopsys.com>,
	Russell King <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Thomas Bogendoerfer <tsbogend@alpha.franken.de>,
	Linux ARM <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"open list:HARDWARE RANDOM NUMBER GENERATOR CORE" 
	<linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org>,
	"open list:BROADCOM NVRAM DRIVER" <linux-mips@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 07/13] asm-generic: unaligned always use struct helpers
Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 17:41:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAK8P3a3hbts4k+rrfnE8Z78ezCaME0UVgwqkdLW5NOps2YHUQQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wjjo+F8HVkq3eLg+=7hjZPF5mkA4JbgAU8FGE_oAw2MEg@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 4:56 PM Linus Torvalds
<torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
>
> On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 12:27 AM Arnd Bergmann <arnd@kernel.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > I wonder if the kernel should do the same, or whether there are still cases
> > > where memcpy() isn't compiled optimally.  armv6/7 used to be one such case, but
> > > it was fixed in gcc 6.
> >
> > It would have to be memmove(), not memcpy() in this case, right?
>
> No, it would simply be something like
>
>   #define __get_unaligned_t(type, ptr) \
>         ({ type __val; memcpy(&__val, ptr, sizeof(type)); __val; })
>
>   #define get_unaligned(ptr) \
>         __get_unaligned_t(typeof(*(ptr)), ptr)
>
> but honestly, the likelihood that the compiler generates something
> horrible (possibly because of KASAN etc) is uncomfortably high.
>
> I'd prefer the __packed thing. We don't actually use -O3, and it's
> considered a bad idea, and the gcc bug is as such less likely than
> just  the above generating unacceptable code (we have several cases
> where "bad code generation" ends up being an actual bug, since we
> depend on inlining and depend on some code sequences not generating
> calls etc).

I think the important question is whether we know that the bug that Eric
pointed to can only happen with -O3, or whether it is something in
gcc-10.1 that got triggered by -O3 -msse on x86-64 but could equally
well get triggered on some other architecture without -O3 or
vector instructions enabled.

From the gcc fix at
https://gcc.gnu.org/git/?p=gcc.git;a=commitdiff;h=9fa5b473b5b8e289b
it looks like this code path is entered when compiling with
-ftree-loop-vectorize, which is documented as

'-ftree-loop-vectorize'
     Perform loop vectorization on trees.  This flag is enabled by
     default at '-O3' and by '-ftree-vectorize', '-fprofile-use', and
     '-fauto-profile'.

-ftree-vectorize is set in arch/arm/lib/xor-neon.c
-O3 is set for the lz4 and zstd compression helpers and for wireguard.

To be on the safe side, we could pass -fno-tree-loop-vectorize along
with -O3 on the affected gcc versions, or use a bigger hammer
(not use -O3 at all, always set -fno-tree-loop-vectorize, ...).

        Arnd

  reply	other threads:[~2021-05-18 15:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-14 10:00 [PATCH v2 00/13] Unify asm/unaligned.h around struct helper Arnd Bergmann
2021-05-14 10:00 ` [PATCH v2 01/13] asm-generic: use asm-generic/unaligned.h for most architectures Arnd Bergmann
2021-05-14 10:00 ` [PATCH v2 02/13] openrisc: always use unaligned-struct header Arnd Bergmann
2021-05-14 10:00 ` [PATCH v2 03/13] sh: remove unaligned access for sh4a Arnd Bergmann
2021-05-14 10:34   ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2021-05-14 12:22     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-05-15 15:36       ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2021-05-15 20:10         ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-05-14 10:00 ` [PATCH v2 04/13] m68k: select CONFIG_HAVE_EFFICIENT_UNALIGNED_ACCESS Arnd Bergmann
2021-05-14 10:00 ` [PATCH v2 05/13] powerpc: use linux/unaligned/le_struct.h on LE power7 Arnd Bergmann
2021-05-14 11:48   ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-05-14 13:02     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-05-14 10:00 ` [PATCH v2 06/13] asm-generic: unaligned: remove byteshift helpers Arnd Bergmann
2021-05-14 10:00 ` [PATCH v2 07/13] asm-generic: unaligned always use struct helpers Arnd Bergmann
2021-05-17 21:53   ` Eric Biggers
2021-05-18  7:25     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-05-18 14:56       ` Linus Torvalds
2021-05-18 15:41         ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2021-05-18 16:12           ` Linus Torvalds
2021-05-18 18:09             ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2021-05-18 20:51             ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-05-18 21:31               ` Eric Biggers
2021-05-18 21:14         ` David Laight
2021-05-14 10:00 ` [PATCH v2 08/13] partitions: msdos: fix one-byte get_unaligned() Arnd Bergmann
2021-05-17 10:28   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-05-17 10:44     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-05-14 10:00 ` [PATCH v2 09/13] apparmor: use get_unaligned() only for multi-byte words Arnd Bergmann
2021-05-14 10:00 ` [PATCH v2 10/13] mwifiex: re-fix for unaligned accesses Arnd Bergmann
2021-05-15  6:22   ` Kalle Valo
2021-05-15  9:01     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-05-15 18:23       ` Kalle Valo
2021-05-14 10:00 ` [PATCH v2 11/13] netpoll: avoid put_unaligned() on single character Arnd Bergmann
2021-05-14 10:01 ` [PATCH v2 12/13] asm-generic: uaccess: 1-byte access is always aligned Arnd Bergmann
2021-05-15 18:41   ` Randy Dunlap
2021-05-15 20:16     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-05-14 10:01 ` [PATCH v2 13/13] asm-generic: simplify asm/unaligned.h Arnd Bergmann
2021-05-14 10:35   ` David Laight
2021-05-14 17:32 ` [PATCH v2 00/13] Unify asm/unaligned.h around struct helper Linus Torvalds
2021-05-14 18:51   ` Vineet Gupta
2021-05-14 19:22     ` Linus Torvalds
2021-05-14 19:45       ` Vineet Gupta
2021-05-14 20:19         ` Linus Torvalds
2021-05-14 19:31   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-12-16 17:29 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2021-12-16 17:42   ` Linus Torvalds
2021-12-16 17:49   ` David Laight
2021-12-16 18:56   ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-12-17 12:34     ` David Laight
2021-12-17 13:35       ` Segher Boessenkool

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