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From: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>
Cc: linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Kernel Team <kernel-team@fb.com>, Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@arm.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 08/15] sched,fair: simplify timeslice length code
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2019 08:41:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKfTPtCAU7bT3sJ_FPexqKrfFzd8Yk0hVTEB5Da=+VbqPViXpA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2a87463e8a51c34733e9c1fcf63380f9caa7afc4.camel@surriel.com>

On Thu, 29 Aug 2019 at 18:00, Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 2019-08-29 at 16:02 +0200, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> > On Thu, 29 Aug 2019 at 01:19, Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com> wrote:
> >
> > > What am I overlooking?
> >
> > My point is more for task that runs several ticks in a row. Their
> > sched_slice will be shorter in some cases with your changes so they
> > can be preempted earlier by other runnable tasks with a lower
> > vruntime
> > and there will be more context switch
>
> I can think of exactly one case where the time slice
> will be shorter with my new code than with the old code,
> and that is the case where:
> - A CPU has nr_running > sched_nr_latency

yes nr_running must be higher than  sched_nr_latency

> - __sched_period returns a value larger than sysctl_sched_latency
> - one of the tasks is much higher priority than the others

it's not only one, that can be several. It depends of the number of
running tasks

> - that one task alone gets a timeslice larger than sysctl_sched_latency
>
> With the new code, that high priority task will get a time
> slice that is a (large) fraction of sysctl_sched_latency,

yes

> while the other (lower priority) tasks get their time slices
> rounded up to sysctl_sched_min_granularity.

yes and if the jify period is higher than sysctl_sched_min_granularity
they will get a full jiffy period

>
> When tasks get their timeslice rounded up, that will increase
> the total sched period in a similar way the old code did by
> returning a longer period from __sched_period.

sched_slice is not a strict value and scheduler will not schedule out
the task after the sched_slice (unless you enable HRTICK which is
disable by default). Instead it will wait for next tick to change the
running task

sched_slice is mainly use to ensure a minimum running time in a row.
With this change, the running time of the high priority task will most
probably be split in several slice instead of one

>
> If a CPU is faced with a large number of equal priority tasks,
> both the old code and the new code would end up giving each
> task a timeslice length of sysctl_sched_min_granularity.
>
> What am I missing?
>
> --
> All Rights Reversed.

  reply	other threads:[~2019-08-30  6:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-22  2:17 [PATCH RFC v4 0/15] sched,fair: flatten CPU controller runqueues Rik van Riel
2019-08-22  2:17 ` [PATCH 01/15] sched: introduce task_se_h_load helper Rik van Riel
2019-08-23 18:13   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2019-08-24  0:05     ` Rik van Riel
2019-08-22  2:17 ` [PATCH 02/15] sched: change /proc/sched_debug fields Rik van Riel
2019-08-22  2:17 ` [PATCH 03/15] sched,fair: redefine runnable_load_avg as the sum of task_h_load Rik van Riel
2019-08-28 13:50   ` Vincent Guittot
2019-08-28 14:47     ` Rik van Riel
2019-08-28 15:02       ` Vincent Guittot
2019-08-22  2:17 ` [PATCH 04/15] sched,fair: move runnable_load_avg to cfs_rq Rik van Riel
2019-08-22  2:17 ` [PATCH 05/15] sched,fair: remove cfs_rqs from leaf_cfs_rq_list bottom up Rik van Riel
2019-08-28 14:09   ` Vincent Guittot
2019-08-22  2:17 ` [PATCH 06/15] sched,cfs: use explicit cfs_rq of parent se helper Rik van Riel
2019-08-28 13:53   ` Vincent Guittot
2019-08-28 15:28     ` Rik van Riel
2019-08-28 16:34       ` Vincent Guittot
2019-08-22  2:17 ` [PATCH 07/15] sched,cfs: fix zero length timeslice calculation Rik van Riel
2019-08-28 16:59   ` Vincent Guittot
2019-08-22  2:17 ` [PATCH 08/15] sched,fair: simplify timeslice length code Rik van Riel
2019-08-28 17:32   ` Vincent Guittot
2019-08-28 23:18     ` Rik van Riel
2019-08-29 14:02       ` Vincent Guittot
2019-08-29 16:00         ` Rik van Riel
2019-08-30  6:41           ` Vincent Guittot [this message]
2019-08-30 15:01             ` Rik van Riel
2019-09-02  7:51               ` Vincent Guittot
2019-09-02 17:47                 ` Rik van Riel
2019-08-22  2:17 ` [PATCH 09/15] sched,fair: refactor enqueue/dequeue_entity Rik van Riel
2019-09-03 15:38   ` Vincent Guittot
2019-09-03 20:27     ` Rik van Riel
2019-09-04  6:44       ` Vincent Guittot
2019-08-22  2:17 ` [PATCH 10/15] sched,fair: add helper functions for flattened runqueue Rik van Riel
2019-08-22  2:17 ` [PATCH 11/15] sched,fair: flatten hierarchical runqueues Rik van Riel
2019-08-23 18:14   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2019-08-24  1:16     ` Rik van Riel
2019-08-22  2:17 ` [PATCH 12/15] sched,fair: flatten update_curr functionality Rik van Riel
2019-08-27 10:37   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2019-08-22  2:17 ` [PATCH 13/15] sched,fair: propagate sum_exec_runtime up the hierarchy Rik van Riel
2019-08-28  7:51   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2019-08-28 13:14     ` Rik van Riel
2019-08-29 17:20       ` Dietmar Eggemann
2019-08-29 18:06         ` Rik van Riel
2019-08-22  2:17 ` [PATCH 14/15] sched,fair: ramp up task_se_h_weight quickly Rik van Riel
2019-08-22  2:17 ` [PATCH 15/15] sched,fair: scale vdiff in wakeup_preempt_entity Rik van Riel
2019-09-02 10:53 ` [PATCH RFC v4 0/15] sched,fair: flatten CPU controller runqueues Dietmar Eggemann
2019-09-03  1:44   ` Rik van Riel

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