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From: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
To: Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>
Cc: linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Phil Auld <pauld@redhat.com>,
	Valentin Schneider <valentin.schneider@arm.com>,
	Srikar Dronamraju <srikar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Quentin Perret <quentin.perret@arm.com>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Morten Rasmussen <Morten.Rasmussen@arm.com>,
	Hillf Danton <hdanton@sina.com>, Parth Shah <parth@linux.ibm.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 01/11] sched/fair: clean up asym packing
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2019 17:03:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKfTPtDVcHpaXTVEfTU_0A=AKXiwRD5K1eVyC43DKSF49JFWAA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191030145133.GH3016@techsingularity.net>

On Wed, 30 Oct 2019 at 15:51, Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 03:26:28PM +0200, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> > Clean up asym packing to follow the default load balance behavior:
> > - classify the group by creating a group_asym_packing field.
> > - calculate the imbalance in calculate_imbalance() instead of bypassing it.
> >
> > We don't need to test twice same conditions anymore to detect asym packing
> > and we consolidate the calculation of imbalance in calculate_imbalance().
> >
> > There is no functional changes.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
> > Acked-by: Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>
> > ---
> >  kernel/sched/fair.c | 63 ++++++++++++++---------------------------------------
> >  1 file changed, 16 insertions(+), 47 deletions(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > index 1f0a5e1..617145c 100644
> > --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > +++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > @@ -7675,6 +7675,7 @@ struct sg_lb_stats {
> >       unsigned int group_weight;
> >       enum group_type group_type;
> >       int group_no_capacity;
> > +     unsigned int group_asym_packing; /* Tasks should be moved to preferred CPU */
> >       unsigned long group_misfit_task_load; /* A CPU has a task too big for its capacity */
> >  #ifdef CONFIG_NUMA_BALANCING
> >       unsigned int nr_numa_running;
> > @@ -8129,9 +8130,17 @@ static bool update_sd_pick_busiest(struct lb_env *env,
> >        * ASYM_PACKING needs to move all the work to the highest
> >        * prority CPUs in the group, therefore mark all groups
> >        * of lower priority than ourself as busy.
> > +      *
> > +      * This is primarily intended to used at the sibling level.  Some
> > +      * cores like POWER7 prefer to use lower numbered SMT threads.  In the
> > +      * case of POWER7, it can move to lower SMT modes only when higher
> > +      * threads are idle.  When in lower SMT modes, the threads will
> > +      * perform better since they share less core resources.  Hence when we
> > +      * have idle threads, we want them to be the higher ones.
> >        */
> >       if (sgs->sum_nr_running &&
> >           sched_asym_prefer(env->dst_cpu, sg->asym_prefer_cpu)) {
> > +             sgs->group_asym_packing = 1;
> >               if (!sds->busiest)
> >                       return true;
> >
>
> (I did not read any of the earlier implementations of this series, maybe
> this was discussed already in which case, sorry for the noise)
>
> Are you *sure* this is not a functional change?
>
> Asym packing is a twisty maze of headaches and I'm not familiar enough
> with it to be 100% certain without spending a lot of time on this. Even
> spotting how Power7 ends up using asym packing with lower-numbered SMT
> threads is a bit of a challenge.  Specifically, it relies on the scheduler
> domain SD_ASYM_PACKING flag for SMT domains to use the weak implementation
> of arch_asym_cpu_priority which by defaults favours the lower-numbered CPU.
>
> The check_asym_packing implementation checks that flag but I can't see
> the equiavlent type of check here. update_sd_pick_busiest  could be called

The checks of  SD_ASYM_PACKING and CPU_NOT_IDLE are already above in
the function but out of the patch.
In fact this part of update_sd_pick_busiest is already dedicated to
asym_packing.

What I'm doing is that instead of checking asym_packing in
update_sd_pick_busiest and then rechecking the same thing in
find_busiest_group, I save the check result and reuse it

Also patch 04 moves further this code

> for domains that span NUMA or basically any domain that does not specify
> SD_ASYM_PACKING and end up favouring a lower-numbered CPU (or whatever
> arch_asym_cpu_priority returns in the case of x86 which has a different
> idea for favoured CPUs).
>
> sched_asym_prefer appears to be a function that is very easy to use
> incorrectly. Should it take env and check the SD flags first?
>
> --
> Mel Gorman
> SUSE Labs

  reply	other threads:[~2019-10-30 16:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-18 13:26 [PATCH v4 00/10] sched/fair: rework the CFS load balance Vincent Guittot
2019-10-18 13:26 ` [PATCH v4 01/11] sched/fair: clean up asym packing Vincent Guittot
2019-10-21  9:12   ` [tip: sched/core] sched/fair: Clean " tip-bot2 for Vincent Guittot
2019-10-30 14:51   ` [PATCH v4 01/11] sched/fair: clean " Mel Gorman
2019-10-30 16:03     ` Vincent Guittot [this message]
2019-10-18 13:26 ` [PATCH v4 02/11] sched/fair: rename sum_nr_running to sum_h_nr_running Vincent Guittot
2019-10-21  9:12   ` [tip: sched/core] sched/fair: Rename sg_lb_stats::sum_nr_running " tip-bot2 for Vincent Guittot
2019-10-30 14:53   ` [PATCH v4 02/11] sched/fair: rename sum_nr_running " Mel Gorman
2019-10-18 13:26 ` [PATCH v4 03/11] sched/fair: remove meaningless imbalance calculation Vincent Guittot
2019-10-21  9:12   ` [tip: sched/core] sched/fair: Remove " tip-bot2 for Vincent Guittot
2019-10-18 13:26 ` [PATCH v4 04/11] sched/fair: rework load_balance Vincent Guittot
2019-10-21  9:12   ` [tip: sched/core] sched/fair: Rework load_balance() tip-bot2 for Vincent Guittot
2019-10-30 15:45   ` [PATCH v4 04/11] sched/fair: rework load_balance Mel Gorman
2019-10-30 16:16     ` Valentin Schneider
2019-10-31  9:09     ` Vincent Guittot
2019-10-31 10:15       ` Mel Gorman
2019-10-31 11:13         ` Vincent Guittot
2019-10-31 11:40           ` Mel Gorman
2019-11-08 16:35             ` Vincent Guittot
2019-11-08 18:37               ` Mel Gorman
2019-11-12 10:58                 ` Vincent Guittot
2019-11-12 15:06                   ` Mel Gorman
2019-11-12 15:40                     ` Vincent Guittot
2019-11-12 17:45                       ` Mel Gorman
2019-11-18 13:50     ` Ingo Molnar
2019-11-18 13:57       ` Vincent Guittot
2019-11-18 14:51       ` Mel Gorman
2019-10-18 13:26 ` [PATCH v4 05/11] sched/fair: use rq->nr_running when balancing load Vincent Guittot
2019-10-21  9:12   ` [tip: sched/core] sched/fair: Use " tip-bot2 for Vincent Guittot
2019-10-30 15:54   ` [PATCH v4 05/11] sched/fair: use " Mel Gorman
2019-10-18 13:26 ` [PATCH v4 06/11] sched/fair: use load instead of runnable load in load_balance Vincent Guittot
2019-10-21  9:12   ` [tip: sched/core] sched/fair: Use load instead of runnable load in load_balance() tip-bot2 for Vincent Guittot
2019-10-30 15:58   ` [PATCH v4 06/11] sched/fair: use load instead of runnable load in load_balance Mel Gorman
2019-10-18 13:26 ` [PATCH v4 07/11] sched/fair: evenly spread tasks when not overloaded Vincent Guittot
2019-10-21  9:12   ` [tip: sched/core] sched/fair: Spread out tasks evenly " tip-bot2 for Vincent Guittot
2019-10-30 16:03   ` [PATCH v4 07/11] sched/fair: evenly spread tasks " Mel Gorman
2019-10-18 13:26 ` [PATCH v4 08/11] sched/fair: use utilization to select misfit task Vincent Guittot
2019-10-21  9:12   ` [tip: sched/core] sched/fair: Use " tip-bot2 for Vincent Guittot
2019-10-18 13:26 ` [PATCH v4 09/11] sched/fair: use load instead of runnable load in wakeup path Vincent Guittot
2019-10-21  9:12   ` [tip: sched/core] sched/fair: Use " tip-bot2 for Vincent Guittot
2019-10-18 13:26 ` [PATCH v4 10/11] sched/fair: optimize find_idlest_group Vincent Guittot
2019-10-21  9:12   ` [tip: sched/core] sched/fair: Optimize find_idlest_group() tip-bot2 for Vincent Guittot
2019-10-18 13:26 ` [PATCH v4 11/11] sched/fair: rework find_idlest_group Vincent Guittot
2019-10-21  9:12   ` [tip: sched/core] sched/fair: Rework find_idlest_group() tip-bot2 for Vincent Guittot
2019-10-22 16:46   ` [PATCH] sched/fair: fix rework of find_idlest_group() Vincent Guittot
2019-10-23  7:50     ` Chen, Rong A
2019-10-30 16:07     ` Mel Gorman
2019-11-18 17:42     ` [tip: sched/core] sched/fair: Fix " tip-bot2 for Vincent Guittot
2019-11-22 14:37     ` [PATCH] sched/fair: fix " Valentin Schneider
2019-11-25  9:16       ` Vincent Guittot
2019-11-25 11:03         ` Valentin Schneider
2019-11-20 11:58   ` [PATCH v4 11/11] sched/fair: rework find_idlest_group Qais Yousef
2019-11-20 13:21     ` Vincent Guittot
2019-11-20 16:53       ` Vincent Guittot
2019-11-20 17:34         ` Qais Yousef
2019-11-20 17:43           ` Vincent Guittot
2019-11-20 18:10             ` Qais Yousef
2019-11-20 18:20               ` Vincent Guittot
2019-11-20 18:27                 ` Qais Yousef
2019-11-20 19:28                   ` Vincent Guittot
2019-11-20 19:55                     ` Qais Yousef
2019-11-21 14:58                       ` Qais Yousef
2019-11-22 14:34   ` Valentin Schneider
2019-11-25  9:59     ` Vincent Guittot
2019-11-25 11:13       ` Valentin Schneider
2019-10-21  7:50 ` [PATCH v4 00/10] sched/fair: rework the CFS load balance Ingo Molnar
2019-10-21  8:44   ` Vincent Guittot
2019-10-21 12:56     ` Phil Auld
2019-10-24 12:38     ` Phil Auld
2019-10-24 13:46       ` Phil Auld
2019-10-24 14:59         ` Vincent Guittot
2019-10-25 13:33           ` Phil Auld
2019-10-28 13:03             ` Vincent Guittot
2019-10-30 14:39               ` Phil Auld
2019-10-30 16:24                 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2019-10-30 16:35                   ` Valentin Schneider
2019-10-30 17:19                     ` Phil Auld
2019-10-30 17:25                       ` Valentin Schneider
2019-10-30 17:29                         ` Phil Auld
2019-10-30 17:28                       ` Vincent Guittot
2019-10-30 17:44                         ` Phil Auld
2019-10-30 17:25                 ` Vincent Guittot
2019-10-31 13:57                   ` Phil Auld
2019-10-31 16:41                     ` Vincent Guittot
2019-10-30 16:24   ` Mel Gorman
2019-10-30 16:35     ` Vincent Guittot
2019-11-18 13:15     ` Ingo Molnar
2019-11-25 12:48 ` Valentin Schneider
2020-01-03 16:39   ` Valentin Schneider

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