From: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
Cc: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>,
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Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@openvz.org>,
Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>,
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Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
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Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>, Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
Leon Romanovsky <leonro@nvidia.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
Kirill Tkhai <ktkhai@virtuozzo.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] page_count can't be used to decide when wp_page_copy
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2021 10:31:24 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALCETrVWGZ5MkN6S+o_h5isOHKVpjwSz-jyXSsp9VJjVOYOyyg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210108181945.GF504133@ziepe.ca>
On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 10:19 AM Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Jan 08, 2021 at 12:00:36PM -0500, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> > > The majority cannot be converted to notifiers because they are DMA
> > > based. Every one of those is an ABI for something, and does not expect
> > > extra privilege to function. It would be a major breaking change to
> > > have pin_user_pages require some cap.
> >
> > ... what makes them safe is to be transient GUP pin and not long
> > term.
> >
> > Please note the "long term" in the underlined line.
>
> Many of them are long term, though only 50 or so have been marked
> specifically with FOLL_LONGTERM. I don't see how we can make such a
> major ABI break.
>
> Looking at it, vmsplice() is simply wrong. A long term page pin must
> use pin_user_pages(), and either FOLL_LONGTERM|FOLL_WRITE (write mode)
> FOLL_LONGTERM|FOLL_FORCE|FOLL_WRITE (read mode)
Can we just remove vmsplice() support? We could make it do a normal
copy, thereby getting rid of a fair amount of nastiness and potential
attacks. Even ignoring issues relating to the length of time that the
vmsplice reference is alive, we also have whatever problems could be
caused by a malicious or misguided user vmsplice()ing some memory and
then modifying it.
--Andy
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-01-08 18:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-12-25 9:25 [RFC PATCH v2 0/2] mm: fix races due to deferred TLB flushes Nadav Amit
2020-12-25 9:25 ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/2] mm/userfaultfd: fix memory corruption due to writeprotect Nadav Amit
2021-01-04 12:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-01-04 19:24 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-04 19:35 ` Nadav Amit
2021-01-04 20:19 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-04 20:39 ` Nadav Amit
2021-01-04 21:01 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-04 21:26 ` Nadav Amit
2021-01-05 18:45 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-05 19:05 ` Nadav Amit
2021-01-05 19:45 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-05 20:06 ` Nadav Amit
2021-01-05 21:06 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-05 21:43 ` Peter Xu
2021-01-05 8:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-01-05 8:52 ` Nadav Amit
2021-01-05 14:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-01-05 8:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-01-05 9:22 ` Nadav Amit
2021-01-05 17:58 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-05 15:08 ` Peter Xu
2021-01-05 18:08 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-05 18:41 ` Peter Xu
2021-01-05 18:55 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-05 19:07 ` Nadav Amit
2021-01-05 19:43 ` Peter Xu
2020-12-25 9:25 ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/2] fs/task_mmu: acquire mmap_lock for write on soft-dirty cleanup Nadav Amit
2021-01-05 15:08 ` Will Deacon
2021-01-05 18:20 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-05 19:26 ` Nadav Amit
2021-01-05 20:39 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-05 21:20 ` Yu Zhao
2021-01-05 21:22 ` Nadav Amit
2021-01-05 22:16 ` Will Deacon
2021-01-06 0:29 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-06 0:02 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-07 20:04 ` [PATCH 0/2] page_count can't be used to decide when wp_page_copy Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-07 20:04 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm: proc: Invalidate TLB after clearing soft-dirty page state Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-07 20:04 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm: soft_dirty: userfaultfd: introduce wrprotect_tlb_flush_pending Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-07 20:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-01-07 20:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-01-07 20:58 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-07 21:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-01-07 21:53 ` John Hubbard
2021-01-07 22:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-01-07 22:14 ` John Hubbard
2021-01-07 22:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-01-07 22:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-01-07 22:37 ` John Hubbard
2021-01-15 11:27 ` Jan Kara
2021-01-07 22:31 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-07 22:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-01-07 22:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-01-07 23:48 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-08 0:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-01-08 12:48 ` Will Deacon
2021-01-08 16:14 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-08 17:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-01-08 17:53 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-08 19:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-01-09 0:12 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-08 17:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-01-07 23:28 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-07 21:36 ` kernel test robot
2021-01-07 20:25 ` [PATCH 0/2] page_count can't be used to decide when wp_page_copy Jason Gunthorpe
2021-01-07 20:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-01-07 21:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-01-07 22:02 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-07 22:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-01-07 22:56 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-09 19:32 ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-01-09 19:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-01-15 14:30 ` Jan Kara
2021-01-07 21:54 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-07 21:45 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-08 13:36 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-01-08 17:00 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-08 18:19 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-01-08 18:31 ` Andy Lutomirski [this message]
2021-01-08 18:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-01-08 23:34 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-09 19:03 ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-01-09 19:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-01-08 18:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-01-08 22:43 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-09 0:42 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-01-09 2:50 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-11 14:30 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-01-13 21:56 ` Jerome Glisse
2021-01-13 23:39 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-01-14 2:35 ` Jerome Glisse
[not found] ` <20210109034958.6928-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2021-01-11 14:39 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-01-05 21:55 ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/2] fs/task_mmu: acquire mmap_lock for write on soft-dirty cleanup Peter Xu
2021-03-02 22:13 ` [RFC PATCH v2 0/2] mm: fix races due to deferred TLB flushes Peter Xu
2021-03-02 22:14 ` Nadav Amit
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