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From: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
To: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
Cc: Andrew Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Radim Krcmar <rkrcmar@redhat.com>, kvm list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 05/11] x86/fpu: set PKRU state for kernel threads
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2018 13:46:22 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALCETrVjEOkNhdyAF10PaYi_rnFUWKRqPhLRCq3ZV=gxQFETxg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181018182538.vgotfpsdy7qxl2tg@linutronix.de>

On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 11:25 AM Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
<bigeasy@linutronix.de> wrote:
>
> On 2018-10-18 09:48:24 [-0700], Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> > > On Oct 18, 2018, at 9:26 AM, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de> wrote:
> > >> On 2018-10-12 11:02:18 [-0700], Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> > >> On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 10:54 AM Dave Hansen
> > >>> So I'm kinda missing the point of the patch.
> > >>
> > >> use_mm().
> > >
> > > So. I would drop that patch from queue. Anyone feels different about it?
> > >
> >
> > I think we *do* want the patch. It’s a bugfix for use_mm users, right?
>
> This is the loophole that has been pointed out. I am not convinced what
> the correct behaviour should be here (and we have five users of that
> interface). For instance f_fs[0].  It reads data from the USB EP and
> then writes it to userland task. Due to $circumstances it happens in a
> workqueue instead of the task's context.  So it borrows the mm with
> use_mm().  The current behaviour random because the PKRU value can not
> be predicted. It may or may not work.
>
> Setting it to allow-all/none would let the operation always fail or
> succeed which might be an improvement in terms of debugging. However it
> is hard to judge what the correct behaviour should be. Should fail or
> succeed.
> But this is not the only loophole: There is ptrace interface which is
> used by gdb (just checked) and also bypasses PKRU. So…
>
> [0] drivers/usb/gadget/function/f_fs.c::ffs_user_copy_worker()
>
> Sebastian

I think we need an entirely new API:

user_mm_ctx_t ctx = user_mm_ctx_get();

...

use_user_mm_ctx(ctx);
unuse_user_mm_ctx(ctx);

...

user_mm_ctx_put(ctx);

and ctx will store a copy of mm and PKRU.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-10-18 20:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-04 14:05 [PATCH 00/11 v3] x86: load FPU registers on return to userland Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2018-10-04 14:05 ` [PATCH 01/11] x86/entry: remove _TIF_ALLWORK_MASK Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2018-10-11 16:27   ` Borislav Petkov
2018-10-04 14:05 ` [PATCH 02/11] x86/fpu: add (__)make_fpregs_active helpers Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2018-10-04 14:05 ` [PATCH 03/11] x86/fpu: make __raw_xsave_addr() use feature number instead of mask Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2018-10-11 17:30   ` Christophe de Dinechin
2018-10-18 11:19     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2018-10-12 15:52   ` Dave Hansen
2018-10-18 11:17     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2018-10-18 11:21       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2018-10-17 10:01   ` Borislav Petkov
2018-10-18 11:48     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2018-10-04 14:05 ` [PATCH 04/11] x86/fpu: eager switch PKRU state Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2018-10-12 17:51   ` Dave Hansen
2018-10-12 18:09     ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-10-12 19:44       ` Dave Hansen
2018-10-18 16:13     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2018-10-18 17:50       ` Dave Hansen
2018-10-04 14:05 ` [PATCH 05/11] x86/fpu: set PKRU state for kernel threads Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2018-10-12 17:54   ` Dave Hansen
2018-10-12 18:02     ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-10-18 16:26       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2018-10-18 16:48         ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-10-18 17:47           ` Dave Hansen
2018-10-18 18:25           ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2018-10-18 20:46             ` Andy Lutomirski [this message]
2018-10-18 20:56               ` Dave Hansen
2018-10-18 21:24                 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2018-10-18 21:58                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-10-19  7:44               ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-10-19 16:59                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-10-19 17:01                   ` Dave Hansen
2018-10-19 17:37                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-10-19 18:26                       ` Dave Hansen
2018-10-04 14:05 ` [PATCH 06/11] x86/pkeys: make init_pkru_value static Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2018-10-12 17:55   ` Dave Hansen
2018-10-04 14:05 ` [PATCH 07/11] x86/pkeys: Drop the preempt-disable section Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2018-10-12 17:58   ` Dave Hansen
2018-10-12 18:07     ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-10-12 20:26       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2018-10-04 14:05 ` [PATCH 08/11] x86/fpu: Always store the registers in copy_fpstate_to_sigframe() Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2018-10-11 17:50   ` Christophe de Dinechin
2018-10-11 21:18     ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-10-12 18:15   ` Dave Hansen
2018-11-02 14:42     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2018-10-04 14:05 ` [PATCH 09/11] x86/entry: add TIF_LOAD_FPU Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2018-10-04 14:05 ` [PATCH 10/11] x86/fpu: prepare copy_fpstate_to_sigframe for TIF_LOAD_FPU Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2018-10-12 19:40   ` Dave Hansen
2018-10-15 15:24     ` Borislav Petkov
2018-11-02 15:44       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2018-11-02 22:55     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2018-10-04 14:05 ` [PATCH 11/11] x86/fpu: defer FPU state load until return to userspace Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2018-10-04 16:14   ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-10-12 20:25     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2018-10-04 16:45 ` [PATCH 00/11 v3] x86: load FPU registers on return to userland Rik van Riel
2018-10-04 16:50   ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-10-05 11:55   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior

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