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From: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: "Sean Christopherson" <sean.j.christopherson@intel.com>,
	"Radim Krčmář" <rkrcmar@redhat.com>,
	"Vitaly Kuznetsov" <vkuznets@redhat.com>,
	"Wanpeng Li" <wanpengli@tencent.com>,
	"Jim Mattson" <jmattson@google.com>,
	"Joerg Roedel" <joro@8bytes.org>,
	"KVM list" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Adam Borowski" <kilobyte@angband.pl>,
	"David Hildenbrand" <david@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] KVM: MMU: Do not treat ZONE_DEVICE pages as being reserved
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2019 07:36:45 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPcyv4gMu547patcROaqBqbwxut5au-WyE_M=XsKxyCLbLXHTg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0db7c328-1543-55db-bc02-c589deb3db22@redhat.com>

On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 3:12 AM Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> On 07/11/19 06:48, Dan Williams wrote:
> >> How do mmu notifiers get held off by page references and does that
> >> machinery work with ZONE_DEVICE? Why is this not a concern for the
> >> VM_IO and VM_PFNMAP case?
> > Put another way, I see no protection against truncate/invalidate
> > afforded by a page pin. If you need guarantees that the page remains
> > valid in the VMA until KVM can install a mmu notifier that needs to
> > happen under the mmap_sem as far as I can see. Otherwise gup just
> > weakly asserts "this pinned page was valid in this vma at one point in
> > time".
>
> The MMU notifier is installed before gup, so any invalidation will be
> preceded by a call to the MMU notifier.  In turn,
> invalidate_range_start/end is called with mmap_sem held so there should
> be no race.
>
> However, as Sean mentioned, early put_page of ZONE_DEVICE pages would be
> racy, because we need to keep the reference between the gup and the last
> time we use the corresponding struct page.

If KVM is establishing the mmu_notifier before gup then there is
nothing left to do with that ZONE_DEVICE page, so I'm struggling to
see what further qualification of kvm_is_reserved_pfn() buys the
implementation.

However, if you're attracted to the explicitness of Sean's approach
can I at least ask for comments asserting that KVM knows it already
holds a reference on that page so the is_zone_device_page() usage is
safe?

David and I are otherwise trying to reduce is_zone_device_page() to
easy to audit "obviously safe" cases and converting the others with
additional synchronization.

  reply	other threads:[~2019-11-07 15:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-06 17:07 [PATCH 0/2] KVM: MMU: Fix a refcount bug with ZONE_DEVICE pages Sean Christopherson
2019-11-06 17:07 ` [PATCH 1/2] KVM: MMU: Do not treat ZONE_DEVICE pages as being reserved Sean Christopherson
2019-11-06 17:14   ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-11-06 17:46     ` Sean Christopherson
2019-11-06 18:04   ` Dan Williams
2019-11-06 20:26     ` Sean Christopherson
2019-11-06 20:34       ` Dan Williams
2019-11-06 21:09     ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-11-06 21:30       ` Sean Christopherson
2019-11-06 23:20       ` Dan Williams
2019-11-06 23:39         ` Sean Christopherson
2019-11-07  0:01           ` Dan Williams
2019-11-07  5:48             ` Dan Williams
2019-11-07 11:12               ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-11-07 15:36                 ` Dan Williams [this message]
2019-11-07 15:58                   ` Sean Christopherson
2019-11-09  1:43                     ` Sean Christopherson
2019-11-09  2:00                       ` Dan Williams
2019-11-11 18:27                         ` Sean Christopherson
2019-11-11 19:15                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-11-12  0:51                           ` Dan Williams
2019-11-12 10:19                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-11-12 16:57                               ` Sean Christopherson
2019-11-06 17:07 ` [PATCH 2/2] KVM: x86/mmu: Add helper to consolidate huge page promotion Sean Christopherson
2019-11-06 17:22   ` Paolo Bonzini

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