From: Andre Hedrick <andre@linux-ide.org>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Martin Diehl <lists@mdiehl.de>, Adrian Bunk <bunk@fs.tum.de>,
"Adam J. Richter" <adam@yggdrasil.com>,
andersen@codepoet.org, jgarzik@pobox.com,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Promise SATA driver GPL'd
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 12:08:45 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10307231202520.13376-100000@master.linux-ide.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1058965063.5516.41.camel@dhcp22.swansea.linux.org.uk>
Alan,
The simple flaw is present and pointed out in my inital statement.
GPL provides no means to enable the author/copyright holder to defend and
recover legal fees occurred during discovery and litigation.
What I find odd in you politics which stinks, is you and redhat are
pumping OSL into new features which are not generally submitted to the
standard base. I do not care, but it does look funny.
Interesting points how the issues of holding the kernel to GPLv2 may
actually be a restriction to invalidate the actually license. This tends
to make it possible for more arguements against the author when pursuing
violations.
Just a nickel to stir the pot.
Andre Hedrick
LAD Storage Consulting Group
On 23 Jul 2003, Alan Cox wrote:
> On Mer, 2003-07-23 at 13:32, Martin Diehl wrote:
> > If the copyright holder puts a note on his code saying it is released
> > under version 2 of the GPL then clearly neither the "or any later" nor the
> > "not specified" cases apply. And I really fail to see how one could
> > argue this were an additional restriction compared to GPL v2 literally!
>
> If the copyright holder is not permitted to make such a restriction and
> use the existing code then yes.
>
> > Btw, you aren't saying linux-kernel would *not* come with a valid GPL,
> > according to linux/COPYING, are you?
>
> The kernel is under GPL. I'm not sure what Linus scribblings make change
> if anything. I understand why Linus did it "I dont want the FSF doing
> something silly" and also why the FSF did it "so we can fix the license".
>
> Ultimately it makes little difference, Linus is perfectly entitled to
> refuse to add anything that doesn't allow GPLv2 use to his kernel tree.
>
> GPLv2 only effectively means your code becomes non-free if a flaw is
> found in that GPL revision, and nobody can fix it for 70 years so its
> an awkward trade off
>
> I suspect this is getting offtopic 8)
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-07-23 19:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-07-23 5:12 Promise SATA driver GPL'd Adam J. Richter
2003-07-23 5:28 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-07-23 9:08 ` Adrian Bunk
2003-07-23 10:12 ` Matthias Andree
2003-07-23 10:21 ` Wichert Akkerman
2003-07-23 11:47 ` Alan Cox
2003-07-23 11:54 ` Wichert Akkerman
2003-07-23 22:22 ` On "any later version" in GPL [Was: Re: Promise SATA driver GPL'd] Horst von Brand
2003-07-23 10:37 ` Promise SATA driver GPL'd Adrian Bunk
2003-07-23 10:29 ` Alan Cox
2003-07-23 10:51 ` Adrian Bunk
2003-07-23 11:43 ` Alan Cox
2003-07-23 12:17 ` Adrian Bunk
2003-07-23 12:32 ` Martin Diehl
2003-07-23 12:57 ` Alan Cox
2003-07-23 19:08 ` Andre Hedrick [this message]
2003-07-23 19:19 ` Alan Cox
2003-07-23 19:33 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-07-23 19:46 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-07-23 20:59 ` Roman Zippel
2003-07-23 22:22 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-07-23 22:40 ` Roman Zippel
2003-07-23 22:35 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-07-23 23:02 ` Roman Zippel
2003-07-23 23:08 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-07-23 23:33 ` Roman Zippel
2003-07-23 23:45 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-07-24 0:14 ` dacin
2003-07-24 0:23 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-07-24 0:21 ` David Schwartz
2003-07-24 0:21 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-07-24 13:23 ` Jesse Pollard
2003-07-24 14:01 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-07-24 18:37 ` David Schwartz
2003-07-23 22:32 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-07-23 22:46 ` Larry McVoy
2003-07-23 23:13 ` Roman Zippel
2003-07-23 10:40 ` Adam Sampson
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-07-22 18:45 Erik Andersen
2003-07-22 18:54 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-07-22 19:07 ` Erik Andersen
2003-07-22 19:39 ` Samuel Flory
2003-07-22 20:56 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-07-22 21:39 ` Erik Andersen
2003-07-22 23:25 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-08-27 3:01 ` Nick Urbanik
2003-08-27 3:14 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-08-27 9:00 ` Matthias Andree
2003-08-27 11:51 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-07-22 20:57 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-07-23 13:20 ` Mark Watts
2003-07-23 1:59 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-07-23 2:38 ` Shawn
2003-07-23 10:32 ` Alan Cox
2003-07-23 18:58 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-07-24 11:22 ` Matthias Andree
2003-08-13 13:34 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2003-08-13 14:24 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-08-15 10:17 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-07-25 3:44 ` Milan Roubal
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