From: Fluke <fluke@gibson.mw.luc.edu>
To: linux-poweredge@dell.com
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Dell vs. GPL
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 00:51:29 -0500 (CDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0306280005000.29249-100000@gibson.mw.luc.edu> (raw)
Dell is providing binary only derived works of the Linux kernel and the
modutils package at ftp://ftp.dell.com/fixes/boot-floppy-rh9.tar.gz
The GPL appears to provide four terms under section 3 that Dell may
legally redistribute these works:
- In regards to GPL 3a, Dell does *NOT* provide the source code as part of
the tar.gz
- In regards to GPL 3b, Dell does *NOT* provide a written offer as part of
the tar.gz
- In regards to GPL 3c, Dell does *NOT* provide information regarding an
offer to the source code as part of the tar.gz
- Lastly, Dell does *NOT* provide equivalent access to the source code
from the same ftp site
I contacted Dell support and recieved confirmation that Dell does not
intend to provide the source code to these binary works. He explained
that all Dell fixes are licensed by Dell from third parties for use by
Dell customers in binary only form and "Dell does not intend the fixes to
be open source products."
If they don't want to honor the GPL with their fixes, why do they
continue to claim to take Linux seriously and why does RedHat continue to
back them?
This is not the first time I have run into Dell trying to mislead
customers in regards to open source. Dell continues to distribute their
ESM kernel module under an "open_src" directory and a license which
redistricts use, modification and redistribution. I'm not sure how it
could ever qualify as an OSI approved license but it is clear that Dell is
trying to pass it off as such.
I have also tried to contact RedHat activities but based on the responce
that I got from Mark Webbink, I don't think RedHat is prepaired to do
anything about it.
Is the GPL as it applies to the kernel intended to be a legal set of
requirements or simply a set of optional guidelines like Dell/RedHat seems
to be treating it?
Thanks
next reply other threads:[~2003-06-28 5:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-06-28 5:51 Fluke [this message]
2003-06-28 6:12 ` Dell vs. GPL Joshua Penix
2003-06-28 15:05 ` Doug McNaught
2003-06-28 15:12 ` Svein Ove Aas
2003-06-28 15:18 ` Doug McNaught
2003-06-28 15:49 ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-06-29 4:22 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-06-29 10:33 ` Alan Cox
2003-06-30 4:07 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-06-30 6:39 ` Miles Bader
2003-06-30 6:56 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-06-30 9:45 ` Miles Bader
2003-07-09 23:28 ` Thomas Dodd
2003-07-10 2:48 ` Miles Bader
2003-07-10 14:41 ` Thomas Dodd
2003-07-10 15:05 ` Gene Heskett
2003-07-10 15:20 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-07-10 15:52 ` Mr. James W. Laferriere
2003-07-10 19:04 ` Thomas Dodd
2003-07-10 19:22 ` OT: " Dana Lacoste
2003-06-30 15:49 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-06-30 16:54 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-06-30 17:50 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-06-30 18:28 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-06-30 20:43 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-06-30 20:44 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-06-30 21:25 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-06-30 21:34 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-07-01 5:03 ` vlad
2003-07-01 5:27 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-07-01 12:50 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-06-30 20:55 ` Trever L. Adams
2003-06-30 20:44 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2003-06-30 20:48 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-07-01 5:53 ` Anders Karlsson
2003-07-01 6:56 ` jw schultz
2003-07-01 7:21 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-07-01 15:38 ` Trever L. Adams
2003-07-01 13:17 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-07-01 15:36 ` vlad
2003-07-01 16:05 ` Scott Robert Ladd
2003-07-01 16:45 ` Trever L. Adams
2003-07-01 17:45 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-07-09 23:24 ` Thomas Dodd
2003-07-01 12:46 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-06-30 17:22 ` Alan Cox
2003-06-30 17:37 ` Andre Hedrick
[not found] ` <3BZo.5iM.27@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-06-29 14:04 ` Florian Weimer
2003-06-28 18:54 ` Alan Cox
2003-06-29 17:47 ` Fluke
2003-06-29 17:48 ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-06-29 4:16 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-06-29 11:49 ` Fluke
2003-06-29 21:45 ` David Schwartz
2003-06-30 4:01 ` ahorn
2003-06-30 4:10 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-06-30 6:59 ` ahorn
2003-06-30 8:29 ` David Schwartz
2003-06-30 8:29 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-06-30 8:44 ` David Schwartz
2003-06-30 5:59 ` David Schwartz
2003-06-30 6:57 ` ahorn
2003-06-30 7:39 ` Anders Karlsson
2003-06-30 8:24 ` David Schwartz
2003-06-30 9:02 ` root
2003-06-30 9:17 ` David Schwartz
2003-06-30 15:57 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-06-30 4:23 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-07-14 20:35 ` Fluke
2003-06-29 14:24 Ricardo Galli
2003-06-29 19:50 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-06-29 19:58 ` Ricardo Galli
2003-06-29 20:21 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-06-29 20:42 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-06-29 20:57 ` Russell King
2003-06-29 21:21 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-06-30 23:14 ` David Weinehall
2003-06-29 20:02 ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2003-06-29 20:54 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
[not found] <Pine.LNX.4.44.0307020931260.1400-100000@humbolt.us.dell.com>
2003-07-02 16:25 ` Andre Hedrick
[not found] <20030715191651.GA6946@delft.aura.cs.cmu.edu>
2003-07-17 3:15 ` Fluke
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