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From: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
To: Anssi Hannula <anssi.hannula@iki.fi>
Cc: Oliver Neukum <oliver@neukum.org>,
	Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>, <dvomlehn@cisco.com>,
	<gregkh@suse.de>, <linux-usb@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [REGRESSION] "USB: use kfifo to buffer usb-generic serial writes" causes gobi_loader to hang
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 15:10:41 -0500 (EST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1002221507590.1328-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201002222124.27777.anssi.hannula@iki.fi>

On Mon, 22 Feb 2010, Anssi Hannula wrote:

> On maanantai 22 helmikuu 2010 21:10:33 Alan Stern wrote:
> > On Mon, 22 Feb 2010, Anssi Hannula wrote:
> > > I guess that would suggest that the device doesn't allow the
> > > initialization data to be broken into packets arbitrarily (though some
> > > differences seem allowed, as the windows driver transmits them
> > > differently).
> > > 
> > > Does this mean a tty interface is ill-suited for the microcode upload,
> > > and instead qcserial should use the kernel's generic microcode upload
> > > mechanism or the userspace should use libusb to do it?
> > 
> > I don't know.  Didn't the old successful code use a tty interface?
> 
> Yes, but does the tty interface guarantee that the data of one write call is 
> sent as one packet to the device?

Not as far as I know.

> If I understood this correctly, it seems the changes have caused it to now 
> concatenate short writes into one packet, which the device doesn't seem to 
> like.

That seems to be the most likely explanation.  You might be able to
test it by adding some delays to the driver between those short writes,
so they don't get concatenated.

Alan Stern


  reply	other threads:[~2010-02-22 20:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-01-17  2:55 [REGRESSION] "USB: use kfifo to buffer usb-generic serial writes" causes gobi_loader to hang Matthew Garrett
2010-01-17  8:13 ` Marcel Holtmann
2010-01-17  9:14 ` Oliver Neukum
2010-01-18  1:58   ` Matthew Garrett
2010-01-18 17:25     ` Oliver Neukum
2010-01-18 20:14       ` Matthew Garrett
2010-01-19 13:20         ` Oliver Neukum
2010-01-19 13:29           ` Alan Cox
2010-01-19 13:57             ` Oliver Neukum
2010-01-19 14:21               ` Alan Cox
2010-01-19 15:15                 ` Oliver Neukum
2010-01-19 14:26               ` Alan Cox
2010-01-19 15:25                 ` Johan Hovold
2010-01-19 15:52                   ` Johan Hovold
2010-01-19 16:27                   ` Alan Cox
2010-01-19 18:44                     ` Oliver Neukum
2010-01-19 19:45                       ` Johan Hovold
2010-01-28 17:45           ` Greg KH
2010-01-28 18:40             ` Oliver Neukum
2010-01-28 22:32               ` Greg KH
2010-02-03 16:46           ` Matthew Garrett
2010-02-03 17:21             ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-03 22:37               ` Matthew Garrett
2010-02-03 22:58                 ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-05 19:58                   ` Matthew Garrett
2010-02-05 21:35                     ` Matthew Garrett
2010-02-08 19:00                       ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-05 21:59                     ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-13  2:09                       ` Anssi Hannula
2010-02-13  2:50                         ` Alan Stern
2010-02-13  7:11                           ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-13 13:35                             ` Anssi Hannula
2010-02-13 19:01                               ` Anssi Hannula
2010-02-15 13:08                                 ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-20 16:03                                   ` Anssi Hannula
2010-02-20 18:19                                     ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-21 21:28                                       ` Alan Stern
2010-02-21 21:42                                         ` Anssi Hannula
2010-02-21 22:12                                           ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-21 23:06                                             ` Anssi Hannula
2010-02-21 23:13                                               ` Anssi Hannula
2010-02-21 23:21                                                 ` Anssi Hannula
2010-02-22 15:28                                                   ` Alan Stern
2010-02-22 18:35                                                     ` Anssi Hannula
2010-02-22 19:10                                                       ` Alan Stern
2010-02-22 19:14                                                         ` Matthew Garrett
2010-02-22 20:12                                                           ` Alan Stern
2010-02-24  2:33                                                             ` Anssi Hannula
2010-02-22 19:24                                                         ` Anssi Hannula
2010-02-22 20:10                                                           ` Alan Stern [this message]
2010-02-22 21:24                                                           ` Alan Cox
2010-02-22 21:23                                                             ` Matthew Garrett
2010-02-22 23:26                                                       ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-23  1:55                                                         ` Anssi Hannula
2010-02-21 22:09                                         ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-21 21:37                                       ` Anssi Hannula

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