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From: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	Andrea Parri <andrea.parri@amarulasolutions.com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Jade Alglave <j.alglave@ucl.ac.uk>,
	Luc Maranget <luc.maranget@inria.fr>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Akira Yokosawa <akiyks@gmail.com>,
	Daniel Lustig <dlustig@nvidia.com>, <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	<netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	<virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 0/4] barriers using data dependency
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2019 16:36:40 -0500 (EST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1901021629150.1375-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190102205715.14054-1-mst@redhat.com>

On Wed, 2 Jan 2019, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:

> So as explained in Documentation/memory-barriers.txt e.g.
> a load followed by a store require a full memory barrier,
> to avoid store being ordered before the load.
> Similarly load-load requires a read memory barrier.
> 
> Thinking about it, we can actually create a data dependency
> by mixing the first loaded value into the pointer being
> accessed.
> 
> This adds an API for this and uses it in virtio.
> 
> Written over the holiday and build tested only so far.

You are using the terminology from memory-barriers.txt, referring to
the new dependency you create as a data dependency.  However,
tools/memory-model/* uses a more precise name, calling it an address
dependency.  Could you change the comments in the patches to use this
name instead?

> This patchset is also suboptimal on e.g. x86 where e.g. smp_rmb is a nop.

This should be easy to fix with an architecture-specific override.

Alan Stern

> Sending out for early feedback/flames.
> 
> Michael S. Tsirkin (4):
>   include/linux/compiler*.h: fix OPTIMIZER_HIDE_VAR
>   include/linux/compiler.h: allow memory operands
>   barriers: convert a control to a data dependency
>   virtio: use dependent_ptr_mb
> 
>  Documentation/memory-barriers.txt | 20 ++++++++++++++++++++
>  arch/alpha/include/asm/barrier.h  |  1 +
>  drivers/virtio/virtio_ring.c      |  6 ++++--
>  include/asm-generic/barrier.h     | 18 ++++++++++++++++++
>  include/linux/compiler-clang.h    |  5 ++---
>  include/linux/compiler-gcc.h      |  4 ----
>  include/linux/compiler-intel.h    |  4 +---
>  include/linux/compiler.h          |  8 +++++++-
>  8 files changed, 53 insertions(+), 13 deletions(-)


  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-01-02 21:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-01-02 20:57 [PATCH RFC 0/4] barriers using data dependency Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-01-02 20:57 ` [PATCH RFC 1/4] include/linux/compiler*.h: fix OPTIMIZER_HIDE_VAR Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-01-08 17:44   ` Nick Desaulniers
2019-01-08 18:50     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-01-09 10:35     ` Miguel Ojeda
2019-01-09 14:50       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-01-19 18:35         ` Miguel Ojeda
2019-01-20 14:43           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-01-20 15:36             ` Miguel Ojeda
2019-01-10  2:36       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-01-10 13:41         ` Dan Carpenter
2019-01-10 14:08           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-01-02 20:57 ` [PATCH RFC 2/4] include/linux/compiler.h: allow memory operands Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-01-07 17:54   ` Will Deacon
2019-01-07 18:16     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-01-02 20:57 ` [PATCH RFC 3/4] barriers: convert a control to a data dependency Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-01-02 21:00   ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-01-02 21:24     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-01-07  3:58   ` Jason Wang
2019-01-07  4:23     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-01-07  6:50       ` Jason Wang
2019-01-07  9:46       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-07 13:36         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-01-07 15:54           ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-07 16:22             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-01-07 19:02           ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-01-07 19:13             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-01-07 19:25               ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-01-02 20:58 ` [PATCH RFC 4/4] virtio: use dependent_ptr_mb Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-01-02 21:36 ` Alan Stern [this message]
2019-01-02 23:04   ` [PATCH RFC 0/4] barriers using data dependency Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-01-03 15:11     ` Alan Stern

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