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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Ashish Kalra <ashish.kalra@amd.com>
Cc: Steve Rutherford <srutherford@google.com>,
	"Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
	"Singh, Brijesh" <brijesh.singh@amd.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>, Borislav Petkov <bp@suse.de>,
	"Lendacky, Thomas" <Thomas.Lendacky@amd.com>,
	X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>, KVM list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"dovmurik@linux.vnet.ibm.com" <dovmurik@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"tobin@ibm.com" <tobin@ibm.com>,
	"jejb@linux.ibm.com" <jejb@linux.ibm.com>,
	"frankeh@us.ibm.com" <frankeh@us.ibm.com>,
	jon.grimm@amd.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/9] KVM: x86: Add AMD SEV specific Hypercall3
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2021 09:26:25 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <X/dEQRZpSb+oQloX@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210107170728.GA16965@ashkalra_ubuntu_server>

On Thu, Jan 07, 2021, Ashish Kalra wrote:
> Hello Steve,
> 
> On Wed, Jan 06, 2021 at 05:01:33PM -0800, Steve Rutherford wrote:
> > Avoiding an rbtree for such a small (but unstable) list seems correct.
> > 
> > For the unencrypted region list strategy, the only questions that I
> > have are fairly secondary.
> > - How should the kernel upper bound the size of the list in the face
> > of malicious guests, but still support large guests? (Something
> > similar to the size provided in the bitmap API would work).
> 
> I am thinking of another scenario, where a malicious guest can make
> infinite/repetetive hypercalls and DOS attack the host. 
> 
> But probably this is a more generic issue, this can be done by any guest
> and under any hypervisor, i don't know what kind of mitigations exist
> for such a scenario ?
> 
> Potentially, the guest memory donation model can handle such an attack,
> because in this model, the hypervisor will expect only one hypercall,
> any repetetive hypercalls can make the hypervisor disable the guest ?

KVM doesn't need to explicitly bound its tracking structures, it just needs to
use GFP_KERNEL_ACCOUNT when allocating kernel memory for the structures so that
the memory will be accounted to the task/process/VM.  Shadow MMU pages are the
only exception that comes to mind; they're still accounted properly, but KVM
also explicitly limits them for a variety of reasons.

The size of the list will naturally be bounded by the size of the guest; and
assuming KVM proactively merges adjancent regions, that upper bound is probably
reasonably low compared to other allocations, e.g. the aforementioned MMU pages.

And, using a list means a malicious guest will get automatically throttled as
the latency of walking the list (to merge/delete existing entries) will increase
with the size of the list.

  reply	other threads:[~2021-01-07 17:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-12-01  0:45 [PATCH v2 0/9] Add AMD SEV page encryption bitmap support Ashish Kalra
2020-12-01  0:45 ` [PATCH v2 1/9] KVM: x86: Add AMD SEV specific Hypercall3 Ashish Kalra
2020-12-03  0:34   ` Sean Christopherson
2020-12-04 17:16     ` Brijesh Singh
2020-12-06 10:26     ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-12-07 20:41       ` Sean Christopherson
2020-12-08  3:09         ` Steve Rutherford
2020-12-08  4:16           ` Kalra, Ashish
2020-12-08 16:29           ` Brijesh Singh
2020-12-11 22:55             ` Ashish Kalra
2020-12-12  4:56               ` Ashish Kalra
2020-12-18 19:39                 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
     [not found]                   ` <E79E09A2-F314-4B59-B7AE-07B1D422DF2B@amd.com>
2020-12-18 19:56                     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-01-06 23:05                       ` Ashish Kalra
2021-01-07  1:01                         ` Steve Rutherford
2021-01-07  1:34                           ` Ashish Kalra
2021-01-07  8:05                             ` Ashish Kalra
2021-01-08  0:47                               ` Ashish Kalra
2021-01-08  0:55                                 ` Steve Rutherford
2021-01-07 17:07                           ` Ashish Kalra
2021-01-07 17:26                             ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2021-01-07 18:41                               ` Ashish Kalra
2021-01-07 19:22                                 ` Sean Christopherson
2021-01-08  0:54                                   ` Steve Rutherford
2021-01-08 16:56                                     ` Sean Christopherson
2020-12-01  0:46 ` [PATCH v2 2/9] KVM: X86: Introduce KVM_HC_PAGE_ENC_STATUS hypercall Ashish Kalra
2020-12-02 16:54   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-12-02 21:22     ` Ashish Kalra
2020-12-06 10:25       ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-12-01  0:47 ` [PATCH v2 3/9] KVM: x86: Introduce KVM_GET_PAGE_ENC_BITMAP ioctl Ashish Kalra
2020-12-06 11:02   ` Dov Murik
2020-12-07 22:00     ` Ashish Kalra
2020-12-01  0:47 ` [PATCH v2 4/9] mm: x86: Invoke hypercall when page encryption status is changed Ashish Kalra
2020-12-01  0:47 ` [PATCH v2 5/9] KVM: x86: Introduce KVM_SET_PAGE_ENC_BITMAP ioctl Ashish Kalra
2020-12-01  0:47 ` [PATCH v2 6/9] KVM: SVM: Add support for static allocation of unified Page Encryption Bitmap Ashish Kalra
2020-12-01  0:48 ` [PATCH v2 7/9] KVM: x86: Mark _bss_decrypted section variables as decrypted in page encryption bitmap Ashish Kalra
2020-12-01  0:48 ` [PATCH v2 8/9] KVM: x86: Add kexec support for SEV " Ashish Kalra
2020-12-01  0:48 ` [PATCH v2 9/9] KVM: SVM: Bypass DBG_DECRYPT API calls for unecrypted guest memory Ashish Kalra
2020-12-08  5:18 [PATCH v2 1/9] KVM: x86: Add AMD SEV specific Hypercall3 Kalra, Ashish

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