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From: Gregory Price <gregory.price@memverge.com>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
Cc: Andrei Vagin <avagin@gmail.com>,
	Gregory Price <gourry.memverge@gmail.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"open list:DOCUMENTATION" <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Gabriel Krisman Bertazi <krisman@collabora.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>, Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 1/2] ptrace,syscall_user_dispatch: Implement Syscall User Dispatch Suspension
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2023 13:46:33 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y9LKifpedUSMkHZE@memverge.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230126183019.GD4069@redhat.com>

On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 07:30:19PM +0100, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> On 01/26, Andrei Vagin wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 7:07 AM Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > IIUC, PTRACE_O_SUSPEND_SYSCALL_USER_DISPATCH is needed to run the injected
> > > code, and this also needs to change the state of the traced process. If
> > > the tracer (CRIU) dies while the tracee runs this code, I guess the tracee
> > > will have other problems?
> >
> > Our injected code can reheal itself if something goes wrong. The hack
> > here is that we inject
> > the code with a signal frame and it calls rt_segreturn to resume the process.
> 
> What will happen if CRIU dies and clears ->ptrace right before
> syscall_user_dispatch() checks PT_SUSPEND_SYSCALL_USER_DISPATCH ?
> 
> How the tracee will react to SIGSYS with unexpected .si_syscall ?
> 
> > I don't expect that
> > the syscall user dispatch
> > is used by many applications,
> 
> Agreed, so the case when CRIU will need to do the additional
> PTRACE_SET_SYSCALL_USER_DISPATCH_CONFIG twice to disable and then re-enable
> syscall_user_dispatch is unlikely.
> 
> > so I don't strongly insist on
> > PTRACE_O_SUSPEND_SYSCALL_USER_DISPATCH.
> 
> I too won't argue too much. but so far I do not feel there is enough
> justification for this feature ...
> 
> Oleg.
> 

I'm not married to the idea, just want to make sure I have the tools
needed to make checkpoint work.  The option seems like the easiest way
given the exclusion area issue.

One idea is to overwrite a portion of the exclusion area, but this
obviously can increase the complexity of the checkpoint process.

Another idea is to disable/enable SUD via get/set, but this produces
potential detach issues.

@Andrei i'm happy to take this to IRC or somewhere else out of band to
discuss the checkpoint specifics, if that would be preferable and you
are interested.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-26 18:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-25  2:51 [PATCH v6 0/2] Gregory Price
2023-01-25  2:51 ` [PATCH v6 1/2] ptrace,syscall_user_dispatch: Implement Syscall User Dispatch Suspension Gregory Price
2023-01-26  0:30   ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-01-26  1:30     ` Gregory Price
2023-01-26  4:43     ` Gregory Price
     [not found]     ` <CANaxB-xn0wW5xA_CT7bA5=jig+td__EDKPBWSpZdfgMgVOezCg@mail.gmail.com>
2023-01-26  5:26       ` Gregory Price
2023-01-26 15:10         ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-01-26 18:09         ` Andrei Vagin
2023-01-26 15:07       ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-01-26 17:45         ` Andrei Vagin
2023-01-26 17:52           ` Gregory Price
2023-01-26 18:30             ` Andrei Vagin
2023-01-26 18:30           ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-01-26 18:46             ` Gregory Price [this message]
2023-01-26 18:53             ` Andrei Vagin
2023-01-26 19:01               ` Gregory Price
2023-01-25  2:51 ` [PATCH v6 2/2] ptrace,syscall_user_dispatch: add a getter/setter for sud configuration Gregory Price
2023-01-25  7:14   ` kernel test robot

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