From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.8 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38FE5C4338F for ; Fri, 13 Aug 2021 15:47:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17AFD60FBF for ; Fri, 13 Aug 2021 15:47:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S241340AbhHMPrx (ORCPT ); Fri, 13 Aug 2021 11:47:53 -0400 Received: from outgoing-auth-1.mit.edu ([18.9.28.11]:33208 "EHLO outgoing.mit.edu" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S236818AbhHMPru (ORCPT ); Fri, 13 Aug 2021 11:47:50 -0400 Received: from cwcc.thunk.org (pool-72-74-133-215.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [72.74.133.215]) (authenticated bits=0) (User authenticated as tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU) by outgoing.mit.edu (8.14.7/8.12.4) with ESMTP id 17DFkcxM032109 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 13 Aug 2021 11:46:39 -0400 Received: by cwcc.thunk.org (Postfix, from userid 15806) id 8D68F15C37C1; Fri, 13 Aug 2021 11:46:38 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2021 11:46:38 -0400 From: "Theodore Ts'o" To: Willy Tarreau Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman , Pavel Machek , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, stable@vger.kernel.org, jason@jlekstrand.net, Jonathan Gray Subject: Re: Determining corresponding mainline patch for stable patches Re: [PATCH 5.10 125/135] drm/i915: avoid uninitialised var in eb_parse() Message-ID: References: <20210810173000.050147269@linuxfoundation.org> <20210811072843.GC10829@duo.ucw.cz> <20210811122702.GA8045@duo.ucw.cz> <20210813093104.GA20799@duo.ucw.cz> <20210813095429.GA21912@1wt.eu> <20210813102429.GA28610@duo.ucw.cz> <20210813111953.GB21912@1wt.eu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20210813111953.GB21912@1wt.eu> Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 01:19:53PM +0200, Willy Tarreau wrote: > > Plus this adds some cognitive load on those writing these patches, which > increases the global effort. It's already difficult enough to figure the > appropriate Cc list when writing a fix, let's not add more burden in this > chain. > > ... > > I'm also defending this on other projects. I find it important that > efforts are reasonably shared. If tolerating 1% failures saves 20% > effort on authors and adds 2% work on recipients, that's a net global > win. You never completely eliminate mistakes anyway, regardless of the > cost. The only way I can see to square the circle would be if there was some kind of script that added enough value that people naturally use it because it saves *them* time, and it automatically inserts the right commit metadata in some kind of standardized way. I've been starting to use b4, and that's a great example of a workflow that saves me time, and standardizes things as a very nice side effect. So perhaps the question is there some kind of automation that saves 10-20% effort for authors *and* improves the quality of the patch metadata for those that choose to use the script? - Ted