From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Christian Brauner <christian.brauner@ubuntu.com>,
Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
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Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
Christian Brauner <christian@brauner.io>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>, Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>,
Tim Murray <timmurray@google.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] mm: introduce process_reap system call
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2021 09:41:54 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <af8e76f1-6625-25d1-98d2-a3c8a9bf2fd6@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210702152724.7fv5tnik4qlap6do@wittgenstein>
On 02.07.21 17:27, Christian Brauner wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 01, 2021 at 03:59:48PM -0700, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:
>> On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 5:44 PM Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 2:45 PM Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 11:51:36AM -0700, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 11:26 AM Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org> wrote:
>>>>>> Also, please consider removing all mention of the word "reap" from the
>>>>>> user API. For better or for worse, "reap" in UNIX refers to what
>>>>>> happens when a dead task gets wait()ed. I sincerely wish I could go
>>>>>> back in time and gently encourage whomever invented that particular
>>>>>> abomination to change their mind, but my time machine doesn't work.
>>>>>
>>>>> I see. Thanks for the note. How about process_mem_release() and
>>>>> replacing reap with release everywhere?
>>>>
>>>> I don't quite understand the objection. This syscall works on tasks
>>>> that are at the end of their life, right? Isn't something like
>>>> process_mreap() establishing exactly the mental link we want here?
>>>> Release is less descriptive for what this thing is to be used for.
>>>
>>> For better or for worse, "reap" means to make a zombie pid go away.
>>> From the description, this new operation takes a dying process (not
>>> necessarily a zombie yet) and aggressively frees its memory. This is
>>> a different optioneration.
>>>
>>> How about "free_dying_process_memory"?
>>
>> process_mreap sounds definitely better and in line with names like
>> process_madvise. So maybe we can use it?
>
> That one was my favorite from the list I gave too but maybe we can
> satisfy Andy too if we use one of:
> - process_mfree()
> - process_mrelease()
>
FWIW, I tend to like process_mrelease(), due to the implied "release"
("free the memory if there are no other references") semantics. Further,
a new syscall feels cleaner than some magic sysfs/procfs toggle. Just my
2 cents.
--
Thanks,
David / dhildenb
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-07-05 7:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-06-23 19:28 [PATCH 1/1] mm: introduce process_reap system call Suren Baghdasaryan
2021-06-23 19:34 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2021-06-29 13:13 ` Christian Brauner
2021-06-29 16:15 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2021-06-30 18:00 ` Shakeel Butt
2021-06-30 18:43 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2021-06-30 19:00 ` Shakeel Butt
2021-06-30 19:06 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2021-06-30 18:26 ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-30 18:51 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2021-06-30 21:45 ` Johannes Weiner
2021-07-01 0:44 ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-07-01 22:59 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2021-07-02 15:27 ` Christian Brauner
2021-07-05 7:41 ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2021-07-07 12:38 ` Michal Hocko
2021-07-07 21:14 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2021-07-09 8:58 ` Christian Brauner
2021-07-09 20:05 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2021-07-01 0:45 ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-07-01 23:08 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2021-07-07 9:46 ` Florian Weimer
2021-07-07 21:07 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2021-07-08 5:40 ` Florian Weimer
2021-07-08 6:05 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2021-07-08 6:14 ` Florian Weimer
2021-07-08 6:39 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2021-07-08 7:13 ` Florian Weimer
2021-07-12 12:51 ` Jan Engelhardt
2021-07-12 18:39 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2021-07-12 19:16 ` Jan Engelhardt
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