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From: Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>,
	Jike Song <jike.song@intel.com>,
	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	"Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xen.org" <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>,
	"igvt-g@ml01.01.org" <igvt-g@ml01.01.org>,
	"intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org"
	<intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"White, Michael L" <michael.l.white@intel.com>,
	"Dong, Eddie" <eddie.dong@intel.com>,
	"Li, Susie" <susie.li@intel.com>,
	"Cowperthwaite, David J" <david.j.cowperthwaite@intel.com>,
	"Reddy, Raghuveer" <raghuveer.reddy@intel.com>,
	"Zhu, Libo" <libo.zhu@intel.com>,
	"Zhou, Chao" <chao.zhou@intel.com>,
	"Wang, Hongbo" <hongbo.wang@intel.com>,
	"Lv, Zhiyuan" <zhiyuan.lv@intel.com>,
	qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Intel-gfx] [Announcement] 2015-Q3 release of XenGT - a Mediated Graphics Passthrough Solution from Intel
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2015 16:12:06 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.02.1511191602470.1107@kaball.uk.xensource.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <564DEF9A.3010901@redhat.com>

On Thu, 19 Nov 2015, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> On 19/11/2015 16:32, Stefano Stabellini wrote:
> > > In addition to Kevin's replies, I have a high-level question: can VFIO
> > > be used by QEMU for both KVM and Xen?
> > 
> > No. VFIO cannot be used with Xen today. When running on Xen, the IOMMU
> > is owned by Xen.
> 
> I don't think QEMU command line compatibility between KVM and Xen should
> be a design goal for GVT-g.

Right, I agree.

In fact I don't want my comment to be taken as "VFIO should not be used
at all". I only meant to reply to the question. I think it is unlikely
to be the best path for Xen, but it could very well be the right answer
for KVM.


> Nevertheless, it shouldn't be a problem to use a "virtual" VFIO (which
> doesn't need the IOMMU, because it uses the MMU in the physical GPU)
> even under Xen.

That could be true, but I would expect some extra work to be needed to
make use of VFIO on Xen. Also it might cause some duplication of
functionalities with the current Xen passthrough code base.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-11-19 16:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-07-25  8:31 [Intel-gfx] [Announcement] Updates to XenGT - a Mediated Graphics Passthrough Solution from Intel Jike Song
2014-07-29 10:09 ` [Xen-devel] " Dario Faggioli
2014-07-30  9:39   ` Jike Song
2014-12-04  2:45 ` [Intel-gfx] [Announcement] 2014-Q3 release of " Jike Song
2014-12-04 10:20   ` [Xen-devel] " Fabio Fantoni
2015-01-09  8:51   ` [Intel-gfx] [Announcement] 2015-Q1 " Jike Song
2015-01-12  3:04     ` [Intel-gfx] [Announcement] 2014-Q4 " Jike Song
2015-04-10 13:23     ` [Intel-gfx] [Announcement] 2015-Q1 " Jike Song
2015-07-07  2:49       ` [Intel-gfx] [Announcement] 2015-Q2 " Jike Song
2015-10-27  9:25         ` [Intel-gfx] [Announcement] 2015-Q3 " Jike Song
2015-11-18 18:12           ` Alex Williamson
2015-11-19  4:06             ` Tian, Kevin
2015-11-19  7:22               ` Jike Song
2015-11-19 15:32                 ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-11-19 15:49                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-11-19 16:12                     ` Stefano Stabellini [this message]
2015-11-19 15:52                   ` Alex Williamson
2015-11-20  2:58                     ` Jike Song
2015-11-20  4:22                       ` Alex Williamson
2015-11-20  5:51                         ` Jike Song
2015-11-20  6:01                           ` Tian, Kevin
2015-11-20 16:40                           ` Alex Williamson
2015-11-23  4:52                             ` [Qemu-devel] " Jike Song
2015-11-19  8:40               ` Gerd Hoffmann
2015-11-19 11:09                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-11-20  2:46                   ` Jike Song
2015-11-20  6:12                 ` Tian, Kevin
2015-11-20  8:26                   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2015-11-20  8:36                     ` Tian, Kevin
2015-11-20  8:46                       ` Zhiyuan Lv
2015-12-03  6:57                     ` Tian, Kevin
2015-12-04 10:13                       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2015-11-19 20:02               ` Alex Williamson
2015-11-20  7:09                 ` Tian, Kevin
2015-11-20 17:03                   ` Alex Williamson
2015-11-20  8:10                 ` Tian, Kevin
2015-11-20 17:25                   ` Alex Williamson
2015-11-23  5:05                     ` Jike Song
2015-11-24 11:19                 ` Daniel Vetter
2015-11-24 11:49                   ` Chris Wilson
2015-11-24 12:38                   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2015-11-24 13:31                     ` Daniel Vetter
2015-11-24 14:12                       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2015-11-24 14:19                         ` Daniel Vetter
2016-01-27  6:21           ` [Intel-gfx] [Announcement] 2015-Q4 " Jike Song
2016-04-28  5:29             ` [Intel-gfx] [Announcement] 2016-Q1 " Jike Song
2016-07-22  5:42               ` [Intel-gfx] [Announcement] 2016-Q2 " Jike Song
2016-11-06 14:59                 ` [Intel-gfx] [Announcement] 2016-Q3 " Jike Song

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