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From: Miroslav Benes <mbenes@suse.cz>
To: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
Cc: Jiri Kosina <jikos@kernel.org>,
	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>,
	Jason Baron <jbaron@akamai.com>,
	Joe Lawrence <joe.lawrence@redhat.com>,
	Jessica Yu <jeyu@kernel.org>,
	Evgenii Shatokhin <eshatokhin@virtuozzo.com>,
	live-patching@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v12 06/12] livepatch: Simplify API by removing registration step
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 18:01:43 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LSU.2.21.1810151756290.11383@pobox.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181012130120.f5berowklyccd7lj@pathway.suse.cz>

On Fri, 12 Oct 2018, Petr Mladek wrote:

> On Wed 2018-09-05 11:34:06, Miroslav Benes wrote:
> > On Tue, 28 Aug 2018, Petr Mladek wrote:
> > > Also the API and logic is much easier. It is enough to call
> > > klp_enable_patch() in module_init() call. The patch patch can be disabled
> > > by writing '0' into /sys/kernel/livepatch/<patch>/enabled. Then the module
> > > can be removed once the transition finishes and sysfs interface is freed.
> > 
> > I think it would be good to discuss our sysfs interface here as well.
> > 
> > Writing '1' to enabled attribute now makes sense only when you need to 
> > reverse an unpatching transition. Writing '0' means "disable" or a 
> > reversion again.
> > 
> > Wouldn't be better to split it to two different attributes? Something like 
> > "disable" and "reverse"? It could be more intuitive.
> > 
> > Maybe we'd also find out that even patch->enabled member is not useful 
> > anymore in such case.
> 
> I though about this as well. I kept "enabled" because:
> 
>   + It keeps the public interface the same as before. Most people
>     would not notice any change in the behavior except maybe that
>     the interface disappears when the patch gets disabled.

Well our sysfs interface is still in a testing phase as far as ABI is 
involved. Moreover, each live patch is bound to its base kernel by 
definition anyway. So we can change this without remorse, I think.
 
>   + The reverse operation makes most sense when the transition
>     cannot get finished. In theory, it might be problem to
>     finish even the reversed one. People might want to
>     reverse once again and force it. Then "reverse" file
>     might be confusing. They might not know in which direction
>     they do the reverse.

I still think it would be better to have a less confusing interface and it 
would outweigh the second remark.
 
> > > @@ -846,17 +740,8 @@ static int __klp_enable_patch(struct klp_patch *patch)
> > >  	if (WARN_ON(patch->enabled))
> > >  		return -EINVAL;
> > >  
> > > -	/* enforce stacking: only the first disabled patch can be enabled */
> > > -	if (patch->list.prev != &klp_patches &&
> > > -	    !list_prev_entry(patch, list)->enabled)
> > > -		return -EBUSY;
> > > -
> > > -	/*
> > > -	 * A reference is taken on the patch module to prevent it from being
> > > -	 * unloaded.
> > > -	 */
> > > -	if (!try_module_get(patch->mod))
> > > -		return -ENODEV;
> > > +	if (!patch->kobj.state_initialized)
> > > +		return -EINVAL;
> > 
> > I think the check is not needed here. __klp_enable_patch() is called right after
> > klp_init_patch() in klp_enable_patch().
> 
> I would keep it. Someone might want to call this also from other
> location. Even we used to do it from enable_store() ;-)

Ok, I don't mind in the end.

Miroslav

  reply	other threads:[~2018-10-15 16:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-08-28 14:35 [PATCH v12 00/12] Petr Mladek
2018-08-28 14:35 ` [PATCH v12 01/12] livepatch: Change void *new_func -> unsigned long new_addr in struct klp_func Petr Mladek
2018-08-31  8:37   ` Miroslav Benes
2018-08-28 14:35 ` [PATCH v12 02/12] livepatch: Helper macros to define livepatch structures Petr Mladek
2018-08-28 14:35 ` [PATCH v12 03/12] livepatch: Shuffle klp_enable_patch()/klp_disable_patch() code Petr Mladek
2018-08-31  8:38   ` Miroslav Benes
2018-08-28 14:35 ` [PATCH v12 04/12] livepatch: Consolidate klp_free functions Petr Mladek
2018-08-31 10:39   ` Miroslav Benes
2018-10-12 11:43     ` Petr Mladek
2018-08-28 14:35 ` [PATCH v12 05/12] livepatch: Refuse to unload only livepatches available during a forced transition Petr Mladek
2018-08-28 14:35 ` [PATCH v12 06/12] livepatch: Simplify API by removing registration step Petr Mladek
2018-09-05  9:34   ` Miroslav Benes
2018-10-12 13:01     ` Petr Mladek
2018-10-15 16:01       ` Miroslav Benes [this message]
2018-10-18 14:54         ` Petr Mladek
2018-10-18 15:30           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-10-19 12:16             ` Miroslav Benes
2018-10-19 14:36               ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-10-22 13:25                 ` Petr Mladek
2018-10-23 16:39                   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-10-24  2:55                     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-10-24 11:14                     ` Petr Mladek
2018-08-28 14:35 ` [PATCH v12 07/12] livepatch: Use lists to manage patches, objects and functions Petr Mladek
2018-09-03 16:00   ` Miroslav Benes
2018-10-12 12:12     ` Petr Mladek
2018-08-28 14:35 ` [PATCH v12 08/12] livepatch: Add atomic replace Petr Mladek
2018-08-28 14:36 ` [PATCH v12 09/12] livepatch: Remove Nop structures when unused Petr Mladek
2018-09-04 14:50   ` Miroslav Benes
2018-08-28 14:36 ` [PATCH v12 10/12] livepatch: Atomic replace and cumulative patches documentation Petr Mladek
2018-09-04 15:15   ` Miroslav Benes
2018-08-28 14:36 ` [PATCH v12 11/12] livepatch: Remove ordering and refuse loading conflicting patches Petr Mladek
2018-08-28 14:36 ` [PATCH v12 12/12] selftests/livepatch: introduce tests Petr Mladek
2018-08-30 11:58 ` [PATCH v12 00/12] Miroslav Benes
2018-10-11 12:48   ` Petr Mladek

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