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From: davidsen@tmr.com (bill davidsen)
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: libata in 2.4.24?
Date: 2 Dec 2003 22:05:09 GMT	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <bqj2al$dmc$1@gatekeeper.tmr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Pine.LNX.4.44.0312011209000.13692-100000@logos.cnet

In article <Pine.LNX.4.44.0312011209000.13692-100000@logos.cnet>,
Marcelo Tosatti  <marcelo.tosatti@cyclades.com> wrote:
| 
| 
| On Mon, 1 Dec 2003, Xose Vazquez Perez wrote:
| 
| > Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
| > 
| > > On Sat, 29 Nov 2003, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
| > >>
| > >> I'm happy to include it in 2.4 when Jeff thinks its stable enough for a 
| > >> stable series. ;)
| > 
| > > I thought a bit more about this issue and I have a different opinion now.
| > >
| > > 2.6 is getting more and more stable and already includes libata --- users 
| > > who need it should use 2.6.
| > 
| > Does it mean that 2.4.x is going to freeze, and only critical and security
| > patches are going to be applied ?
| 
| Yes this will happen in the near future.
| 
| I still might accept some "non critical" modifications (which is btw, not
| an objective defition) to 2.4.24, but for 2.4.25 that will be the rule.

I hope you will continue to allow changes like new drivers and the
like, there are many things in 2.6 which are not only not working but
unlikely to ever be fixed because they are "old technology" and have
been replaced by more interesting and less functional alternatives, but
which are highly useful for people who have to use what is available in
terms of hardware.

That's "what the client/boss what's to provide" as well as "what the
individual can afford." It's not just hobby stuff or old PCs being used,
there are people selling laptops with ACPI more disfunctional than the
Simpsons. Suspend via APM works fine, though.

Unless a miracle occurs it will take as long for 2.6 to be really stable
and fully functional as it did for 2.[024]. When it goes out in distros
and gets abused by users for a while the sharp corners will be broken off.
-- 
bill davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
  CTO, TMR Associates, Inc
Doing interesting things with little computers since 1979.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-12-02 22:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-12-01 13:41 libata in 2.4.24? Xose Vazquez Perez
2003-12-01 14:11 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-12-02 19:59   ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-12-02 22:05   ` bill davidsen [this message]
2003-12-02 22:34     ` Jeff Garzik
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-12-03  0:34 Xose Vazquez Perez
2003-11-28 18:27 linux-2.4.23 released Marcelo Tosatti
2003-11-29 22:26 ` libata in 2.4.24? Samuel Flory
2003-11-29 23:10   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-12-01 10:43     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-12-01 18:06       ` Samuel Flory
2003-12-01 21:12         ` Greg Stark
2003-12-01 21:23           ` Samuel Flory
2003-12-01 21:44             ` Greg Stark
2003-12-01 22:00               ` Jeff Garzik
2003-12-01 22:06               ` Samuel Flory
2003-12-01 22:00             ` Erik Steffl
2003-12-02  5:36               ` Greg Stark
     [not found]                 ` <20031202055336.GO1566@mis-mike-wstn.matchmail.com>
2003-12-02  5:58                   ` Mike Fedyk
2003-12-02 16:31                     ` Greg Stark
2003-12-02 17:40                       ` Mike Fedyk
2003-12-02 18:04                         ` Jeff Garzik
2003-12-02 18:46                           ` Mike Fedyk
2003-12-02 18:49                             ` Jeff Garzik
2003-12-04  8:18                         ` Jens Axboe
2003-12-02 18:02                       ` Jeff Garzik
2003-12-02 18:51                         ` Greg Stark
2003-12-02 19:06                           ` Jeff Garzik
2003-12-02 20:10                             ` Greg Stark
2003-12-02 20:16                               ` Jeff Garzik
2003-12-02 20:34                                 ` Greg Stark
2003-12-02 22:34                               ` bill davidsen
2003-12-02 23:02                                 ` Mike Fedyk
2003-12-02 23:18                                   ` bill davidsen
2003-12-02 23:40                                     ` Mike Fedyk
2003-12-03  0:01                                     ` Jeff Garzik
2003-12-03  0:47                                 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-12-07  5:33                                   ` Bill Davidsen
2003-12-01 21:36           ` Justin Cormack

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