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From: davidsen@tmr.com (bill davidsen)
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH][RFC] make cpu_sibling_map a cpumask_t
Date: 11 Dec 2003 21:41:39 GMT	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <braoaj$5dh$1@gatekeeper.tmr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 3FD5CFE1.8080800@cyberone.com.au

In article <3FD5CFE1.8080800@cyberone.com.au>,
Nick Piggin  <piggin@cyberone.com.au> wrote:

| Well if (something like) cpu_sibling_map is to become architecture
| independant code, it should probably get something like cpu_to_package,
| package_to_cpumask sort of things like NUMA has.
| 
| I don't know if SMT should become just another level of NUMA because
| its not NUMA of course. For the scheduler it seems to make sense because
| SMT/SMP/NUMA basically want slight variations of the same thing.
| 
| Possibly as you say slab cache could be SMTed, but I'm not convinced
| that SMT and NUMA should become inseperable. Anyway I doubt 2.6 will
| see a general multi level NUMA framework.

It would seem that what concerns all of these levels is the process
migration cost, so perhaps it will be possible in 2.6 after all. Right
now a lot of clever people are actively working on scheduling, so now
is the time for a breakthrough which gives a big boost. Absent that I
predict all of the clever folks and most of us "build a bunch of
kernels and play" types will conclude the low hanging fruit have all
been picked and move on. Scheduling will be stable again.

Before that perhaps one of you will suddenly see some way to make this
all very simple and elegant, so everyone can look and say "of course"
and everything will work optimally.

What we have in all of these patches is a big gain over base, so the
efforts have produced visable gains.
-- 
bill davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
  CTO, TMR Associates, Inc
Doing interesting things with little computers since 1979.

  reply	other threads:[~2003-12-11 21:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-12-08  4:25 [PATCH][RFC] make cpu_sibling_map a cpumask_t Nick Piggin
2003-12-08 15:59 ` Anton Blanchard
2003-12-08 23:08   ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-09  0:14     ` Anton Blanchard
2003-12-11  4:25       ` [CFT][RFC] HT scheduler Nick Piggin
2003-12-11  7:24         ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-11  8:57           ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-11 11:52             ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-12-11 13:09               ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-11 13:23                 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-12-11 13:30                   ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-11 13:32                     ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-12-11 15:30                       ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-11 15:38                         ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-12-11 15:51                           ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-11 15:56                             ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-12-11 16:37                               ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-11 16:40                                 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-12-12  1:52                         ` [PATCH] improve rwsem scalability (was Re: [CFT][RFC] HT scheduler) Nick Piggin
2003-12-12  2:02                           ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-12  9:41                           ` Ingo Molnar
2003-12-13  0:07                             ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-14  0:44                               ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-17  5:27                                 ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-19 11:52                                   ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-19 15:06                                     ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-12-20  0:08                                       ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-12  0:58             ` [CFT][RFC] HT scheduler Rusty Russell
2003-12-11 10:01           ` Rhino
2003-12-11  8:14             ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-11 16:49               ` Rhino
2003-12-11 15:16                 ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-11 11:40             ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-12-11 17:05               ` Rhino
2003-12-11 15:17                 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-12-11 16:28         ` Kevin P. Fleming
2003-12-11 16:41           ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-12  2:24         ` Rusty Russell
2003-12-12  7:00           ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-12  7:23             ` Rusty Russell
2003-12-13  6:43               ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-14  1:35                 ` bill davidsen
2003-12-14  2:18                   ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-14  4:32                     ` Jamie Lokier
2003-12-14  9:40                       ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-14 10:46                         ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-12-16 17:46                         ` Bill Davidsen
2003-12-16 18:22                       ` Linus Torvalds
2003-12-17  0:24                         ` Davide Libenzi
2003-12-17  0:41                           ` Linus Torvalds
2003-12-17  0:54                             ` Davide Libenzi
2003-12-16 17:34                     ` Bill Davidsen
2003-12-15  5:53                 ` Rusty Russell
2003-12-15 23:08                   ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-19  4:57                     ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-19  5:13                       ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-20  2:43                       ` Rusty Russell
2003-12-21  2:56                         ` Nick Piggin
2004-01-03 18:57                   ` Bill Davidsen
2003-12-15 20:21                 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2003-12-15 23:20                   ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-16  0:11                     ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2003-12-12  8:59             ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-12 15:14               ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-12-08 19:44 ` [PATCH][RFC] make cpu_sibling_map a cpumask_t James Cleverdon
2003-12-08 20:38 ` Ingo Molnar
2003-12-08 20:51 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2003-12-08 20:55   ` Ingo Molnar
2003-12-08 23:17     ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-08 23:36       ` Ingo Molnar
2003-12-08 23:58         ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-08 23:46 ` Rusty Russell
2003-12-09 13:36   ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-11 21:41     ` bill davidsen [this message]
2003-12-09  4:54 Nakajima, Jun
2003-12-09 19:42 ` William Lee Irwin III

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