From: Subhra Mazumdar <subhra.mazumdar@oracle.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>, Greg Kerr <kerrnel@google.com>
Cc: mingo@kernel.org, tglx@linutronix.de,
Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>,
tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, fweisbec@gmail.com,
keescook@chromium.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 00/16] sched: Core scheduling
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2019 10:43:09 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <c1aedc4d-0821-95d0-8f50-cee6526e7779@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190220094255.GE32494@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>
On 2/20/19 1:42 AM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
> Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
> A: Top-posting.
> Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
>
> On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 02:07:01PM -0800, Greg Kerr wrote:
>> Thanks for posting this patchset Peter. Based on the patch titled, "sched: A
>> quick and dirty cgroup tagging interface," I believe cgroups are used to
>> define co-scheduling groups in this implementation.
>>
>> Chrome OS engineers (kerrnel@google.com, mpdenton@google.com, and
>> palmer@google.com) are considering an interface that is usable by unprivileged
>> userspace apps. cgroups are a global resource that require privileged access.
>> Have you considered an interface that is akin to namespaces? Consider the
>> following strawperson API proposal (I understand prctl() is generally
>> used for process
>> specific actions, so we aren't married to using prctl()):
> I don't think we're anywhere near the point where I care about
> interfaces with this stuff.
>
> Interfaces are a trivial but tedious matter once the rest works to
> satisfaction.
>
> As it happens; there is actually a bug in that very cgroup patch that
> can cause undesired scheduling. Try spotting and fixing that.
>
> Another question is if we want to be L1TF complete (and how strict) or
> not, and if so, build the missing pieces (for instance we currently
> don't kick siblings on IRQ/trap/exception entry -- and yes that's nasty
> and horrible code and missing for that reason).
I remember asking Paul about this and he mentioned he has a Address Space
Isolation proposal to cover this. So it seems this is out of scope of
core scheduling?
>
> So first; does this provide what we need? If that's sorted we can
> bike-shed on uapi/abi.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-02-20 18:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 99+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-02-18 16:56 [RFC][PATCH 00/16] sched: Core scheduling Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-18 16:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 01/16] stop_machine: Fix stop_cpus_in_progress ordering Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-18 16:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 02/16] sched: Fix kerneldoc comment for ia64_set_curr_task Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-18 16:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 03/16] sched: Wrap rq::lock access Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-19 16:13 ` Phil Auld
2019-02-19 16:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-19 16:37 ` Phil Auld
2019-03-18 15:41 ` Julien Desfossez
2019-03-20 2:29 ` Subhra Mazumdar
2019-03-21 21:20 ` Julien Desfossez
2019-03-22 13:34 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-22 20:59 ` Julien Desfossez
2019-03-23 0:06 ` Subhra Mazumdar
2019-03-27 1:02 ` Subhra Mazumdar
2019-03-29 13:35 ` Julien Desfossez
2019-03-29 22:23 ` Subhra Mazumdar
2019-04-01 21:35 ` Subhra Mazumdar
2019-04-03 20:16 ` Julien Desfossez
2019-04-05 1:30 ` Subhra Mazumdar
2019-04-02 7:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-22 23:28 ` Tim Chen
2019-03-22 23:44 ` Tim Chen
2019-02-18 16:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 04/16] sched/{rt,deadline}: Fix set_next_task vs pick_next_task Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-18 16:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 05/16] sched: Add task_struct pointer to sched_class::set_curr_task Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-18 16:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 06/16] sched/fair: Export newidle_balance() Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-18 16:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 07/16] sched: Allow put_prev_task() to drop rq->lock Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-18 16:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 08/16] sched: Rework pick_next_task() slow-path Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-18 16:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 09/16] sched: Introduce sched_class::pick_task() Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-18 16:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 10/16] sched: Core-wide rq->lock Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-18 16:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 11/16] sched: Basic tracking of matching tasks Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-18 16:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 12/16] sched: A quick and dirty cgroup tagging interface Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-18 16:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 13/16] sched: Add core wide task selection and scheduling Peter Zijlstra
[not found] ` <20190402064612.GA46500@aaronlu>
2019-04-02 8:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-02 13:20 ` Aaron Lu
2019-04-05 14:55 ` Aaron Lu
2019-04-09 18:09 ` Tim Chen
2019-04-10 4:36 ` Aaron Lu
2019-04-10 14:18 ` Aubrey Li
2019-04-11 2:11 ` Aaron Lu
2019-04-10 14:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-11 3:05 ` Aaron Lu
2019-04-11 9:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-10 8:06 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-10 19:58 ` Vineeth Remanan Pillai
2019-04-15 16:59 ` Julien Desfossez
2019-04-16 13:43 ` Aaron Lu
2019-04-09 18:38 ` Julien Desfossez
2019-04-10 15:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-11 0:11 ` Subhra Mazumdar
2019-04-19 8:40 ` Ingo Molnar
2019-04-19 23:16 ` Subhra Mazumdar
2019-02-18 16:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 14/16] sched/fair: Add a few assertions Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-18 16:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 15/16] sched: Trivial forced-newidle balancer Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-21 16:19 ` Valentin Schneider
2019-02-21 16:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-21 16:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-21 18:28 ` Valentin Schneider
2019-04-04 8:31 ` Aubrey Li
2019-04-06 1:36 ` Aubrey Li
2019-02-18 16:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 16/16] sched: Debug bits Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-18 17:49 ` [RFC][PATCH 00/16] sched: Core scheduling Linus Torvalds
2019-02-18 20:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-19 0:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-02-19 15:15 ` Ingo Molnar
2019-02-22 12:17 ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-02-22 14:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-22 19:26 ` Tim Chen
2019-02-26 8:26 ` Aubrey Li
2019-02-27 7:54 ` Aubrey Li
2019-02-21 2:53 ` Subhra Mazumdar
2019-02-21 14:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-21 18:44 ` Subhra Mazumdar
2019-02-22 0:34 ` Subhra Mazumdar
2019-02-22 12:45 ` Mel Gorman
2019-02-22 16:10 ` Mel Gorman
2019-03-08 19:44 ` Subhra Mazumdar
2019-03-11 4:23 ` Aubrey Li
2019-03-11 18:34 ` Subhra Mazumdar
2019-03-11 23:33 ` Subhra Mazumdar
2019-03-12 0:20 ` Greg Kerr
2019-03-12 0:47 ` Subhra Mazumdar
2019-03-12 7:33 ` Aaron Lu
2019-03-12 7:45 ` Aubrey Li
2019-03-13 5:55 ` Aubrey Li
2019-03-14 0:35 ` Tim Chen
2019-03-14 5:30 ` Aubrey Li
2019-03-14 6:07 ` Li, Aubrey
2019-03-18 6:56 ` Aubrey Li
2019-03-12 19:07 ` Pawan Gupta
2019-03-26 7:32 ` Aaron Lu
2019-03-26 7:56 ` Aaron Lu
2019-02-19 22:07 ` Greg Kerr
2019-02-20 9:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-20 18:33 ` Greg Kerr
2019-02-22 14:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-07 22:06 ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-02-20 18:43 ` Subhra Mazumdar [this message]
2019-03-01 2:54 ` Subhra Mazumdar
2019-03-14 15:28 ` Julien Desfossez
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