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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Xiaoyao Li <xiaoyao.li@intel.com>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: Sean Christopherson <sean.j.christopherson@intel.com>,
	Fenghua Yu <fenghua.yu@intel.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>, H Peter Anvin <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	Radim Krcmar <rkrcmar@redhat.com>,
	Ashok Raj <ashok.raj@intel.com>, Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	Sai Praneeth Prakhya <sai.praneeth.prakhya@intel.com>,
	Ravi V Shankar <ravi.v.shankar@intel.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, x86 <x86@kernel.org>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 09/17] x86/split_lock: Handle #AC exception for split lock
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2019 13:26:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d30652bb-89fa-671a-5691-e2c76af231d0@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c3ff2fb3-4380-fb07-1fa3-15896a09e748@intel.com>

On 16/10/19 13:23, Xiaoyao Li wrote:
> KVM always traps #AC, and only advertises split-lock detection to guest
> when the global variable split_lock_detection_enabled in host is true.
> 
> - If guest enables #AC (CPL3 alignment check or split-lock detection
> enabled), injecting #AC back into guest since it's supposed capable of
> handling it.
> - If guest doesn't enable #AC, KVM reports #AC to userspace (like other
> unexpected exceptions), and we can print a hint in kernel, or let
> userspace (e.g., QEMU) tell the user guest is killed because there is a
> split-lock in guest.
> 
> In this way, malicious guests always get killed by userspace and old
> sane guests cannot survive as well if it causes split-lock. If we do
> want old sane guests work we have to disable the split-lock detection
> (through booting parameter or debugfs) in the host just the same as we
> want to run an old and split-lock generating userspace binary.

Old guests are prevalent enough that enabling split-lock detection by
default would be a big usability issue.  And even ignoring that, you
would get the issue you describe below:

> But there is an issue that we advertise split-lock detection to guest
> based on the value of split_lock_detection_enabled to be true in host,
> which can be turned into false dynamically when split-lock happens in
> host kernel.

... which means that supposedly safe guests become unsafe, and that is bad.

> This causes guest's capability changes at run time and I
> don't if there is a better way to inform guest? Maybe we need a pv
> interface?

Even a PV interface would not change the basic fact that a supposedly
safe configuration becomes unsafe.

Paolo

  reply	other threads:[~2019-10-16 11:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-06-18 22:41 [PATCH v9 00/17] x86/split_lock: Enable split lock detection Fenghua Yu
2019-06-18 22:41 ` [PATCH v9 01/17] x86/common: Align cpu_caps_cleared and cpu_caps_set to unsigned long Fenghua Yu
2019-06-18 22:41 ` [PATCH v9 02/17] drivers/net/b44: Align pwol_mask to unsigned long for better performance Fenghua Yu
2019-06-24 15:12   ` David Laight
2019-06-24 18:43     ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-06-18 22:41 ` [PATCH v9 03/17] x86/split_lock: Align x86_capability to unsigned long to avoid split locked access Fenghua Yu
2019-06-24 15:12   ` David Laight
2019-06-25 23:54     ` Fenghua Yu
2019-06-26 19:15       ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-06-18 22:41 ` [PATCH v9 04/17] x86/msr-index: Define MSR_IA32_CORE_CAP and split lock detection bit Fenghua Yu
2019-06-18 22:41 ` [PATCH v9 05/17] x86/cpufeatures: Enumerate MSR_IA32_CORE_CAP Fenghua Yu
2019-06-18 22:41 ` [PATCH v9 06/17] x86/split_lock: Enumerate split lock detection by MSR_IA32_CORE_CAP Fenghua Yu
2019-06-18 22:41 ` [PATCH v9 07/17] x86/split_lock: Enumerate split lock detection on Icelake mobile processor Fenghua Yu
2019-06-18 22:41 ` [PATCH v9 08/17] x86/split_lock: Define MSR TEST_CTL register Fenghua Yu
2019-06-18 22:41 ` [PATCH v9 09/17] x86/split_lock: Handle #AC exception for split lock Fenghua Yu
2019-06-26 20:20   ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-06-26 20:36     ` Fenghua Yu
2019-06-26 21:47       ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-09-25 18:09         ` Sean Christopherson
2019-10-16  6:58           ` Xiaoyao Li
2019-10-16  9:29           ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-10-16 15:59             ` Sean Christopherson
2019-10-16  9:40           ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-10-16  9:47             ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-10-16 10:16               ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-10-16 11:23                 ` Xiaoyao Li
2019-10-16 11:26                   ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2019-10-16 13:13                     ` Xiaoyao Li
2019-10-16 14:43                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-10-16 15:37                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-10-16 16:25                           ` Xiaoyao Li
2019-10-16 16:38                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-10-17 12:29                           ` [RFD] x86/split_lock: Request to Intel Thomas Gleixner
2019-10-17 17:23                             ` Sean Christopherson
2019-10-17 21:31                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-10-17 23:38                                 ` Sean Christopherson
2019-10-17 23:28                             ` Luck, Tony
2019-10-18 10:45                               ` David Laight
2019-10-18 21:03                                 ` hpa
2019-10-18  2:36                             ` Xiaoyao Li
2019-10-18  9:02                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-10-18 10:20                                 ` Xiaoyao Li
2019-10-18 10:43                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-16 11:49                 ` [PATCH v9 09/17] x86/split_lock: Handle #AC exception for split lock Thomas Gleixner
2019-10-16 11:58                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-10-16 13:51                     ` Xiaoyao Li
2019-10-16 14:08                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-10-16 14:14                         ` David Laight
2019-10-16 15:03                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-10-16 15:41                         ` Sean Christopherson
2019-10-16 15:43                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-10-16 16:23                             ` Sean Christopherson
2019-10-16 17:42                               ` Sean Christopherson
2019-10-17  1:23                                 ` Xiaoyao Li
2019-10-21 13:06                                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-10-21 13:03                                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-10-21 13:02                               ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-10-16 14:50                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-06-18 22:41 ` [PATCH v9 10/17] kvm/x86: Emulate MSR IA32_CORE_CAPABILITY Fenghua Yu
2019-06-18 22:41 ` [PATCH v9 11/17] kvm/vmx: Emulate MSR TEST_CTL Fenghua Yu
2019-06-27  2:24   ` Xiaoyao Li
2019-06-27  7:12     ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-06-27  7:58       ` Xiaoyao Li
2019-06-27 12:11         ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-06-27 12:22           ` Xiaoyao Li
2019-06-18 22:41 ` [PATCH v9 12/17] x86/split_lock: Enable split lock detection by default Fenghua Yu
2019-06-18 22:41 ` [PATCH v9 13/17] x86/split_lock: Disable split lock detection by kernel parameter "nosplit_lock_detect" Fenghua Yu
2019-06-26 20:34   ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-06-26 20:37     ` Fenghua Yu
2019-06-18 22:41 ` [PATCH v9 14/17] x86/split_lock: Add a debugfs interface to enable/disable split lock detection during run time Fenghua Yu
2019-06-26 21:37   ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-06-18 22:41 ` [PATCH v9 15/17] x86/split_lock: Add documentation for split lock detection interface Fenghua Yu
2019-06-26 21:51   ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-06-18 22:41 ` [PATCH v9 16/17] x86/split_lock: Reorganize few header files in order to call WARN_ON_ONCE() in atomic bit ops Fenghua Yu
2019-06-18 22:41 ` [PATCH v9 17/17] x86/split_lock: Warn on unaligned address in atomic bit operations Fenghua Yu
2019-06-26 22:00   ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-09-16 22:39 ` [PATCH 0/3] Fix some 4-byte vs. 8-byte alignment issues Tony Luck
2019-09-16 22:39   ` [PATCH 1/3] x86/common: Align cpu_caps_cleared and cpu_caps_set to unsigned long Tony Luck
2019-11-15 19:26     ` [tip: x86/cpu] x86/cpu: " tip-bot2 for Fenghua Yu
2019-09-16 22:39   ` [PATCH 2/3] drivers/net/b44: Align pwol_mask to unsigned long for better performance Tony Luck
2019-09-16 22:39   ` [PATCH 3/3] x86/split_lock: Align the x86_capability array to size of unsigned long Tony Luck
2019-09-17  8:29     ` David Laight
2019-09-17 19:14       ` Luck, Tony
2019-09-18  8:54         ` David Laight
2019-11-15 19:26     ` [tip: x86/cpu] x86/cpu: " tip-bot2 for Fenghua Yu

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