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From: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
To: Anshuman Khandual <khandual@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Cc: mhocko@suse.com, vbabka@suse.cz, mgorman@suse.de,
	minchan@kernel.org, aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	bsingharora@gmail.com, srikar@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	haren@linux.vnet.ibm.com, jglisse@redhat.com,
	dan.j.williams@intel.com
Subject: Re: [RFC V2 03/12] mm: Change generic FALLBACK zonelist creation process
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2017 17:57:08 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f1521ecc-e2a2-7368-07b7-7af6c0e88cc6@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <434aa74c-e917-490e-85ab-8c67b1a82d95@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On 01/30/2017 05:36 PM, Anshuman Khandual wrote:
>> Let's say we had a CDM node with 100x more RAM than the rest of the
>> system and it was just as fast as the rest of the RAM.  Would we still
>> want it isolated like this?  Or would we want a different policy?
> 
> But then the other argument being, dont we want to keep this 100X more
> memory isolated for some special purpose to be utilized by specific
> applications ?

I was thinking that in this case, we wouldn't even want to bother with
having "system RAM" in the fallback lists.  A device who got its memory
usage off by 1% could start to starve the rest of the system.  A sane
policy in this case might be to isolate the "system RAM" from the device's.

>> Why do we need this hard-coded along with the cpuset stuff later in the
>> series.  Doesn't taking a node out of the cpuset also take it out of the
>> fallback lists?
> 
> There are two mutually exclusive approaches which are described in
> this patch series.
> 
> (1) zonelist modification based approach
> (2) cpuset restriction based approach
> 
> As mentioned in the cover letter,

Well, I'm glad you coded both of them up, but now that we have them how
to we pick which one to throw to the wolves?  Or, do we just merge both
of them and let one bitrot? ;)

  reply	other threads:[~2017-01-31  1:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-01-30  3:35 [RFC V2 00/12] Define coherent device memory node Anshuman Khandual
2017-01-30  3:35 ` [RFC V2 01/12] mm: Define coherent device memory (CDM) node Anshuman Khandual
2017-01-30  3:35 ` [RFC V2 02/12] mm: Isolate HugeTLB allocations away from CDM nodes Anshuman Khandual
2017-01-30 17:19   ` Dave Hansen
2017-01-31  1:03     ` Anshuman Khandual
2017-01-31  1:37       ` Dave Hansen
2017-02-01 13:59         ` Anshuman Khandual
2017-02-01 19:01           ` Dave Hansen
2017-01-30  3:35 ` [RFC V2 03/12] mm: Change generic FALLBACK zonelist creation process Anshuman Khandual
2017-01-30 17:34   ` Dave Hansen
2017-01-31  1:36     ` Anshuman Khandual
2017-01-31  1:57       ` Dave Hansen [this message]
2017-01-31  7:25         ` John Hubbard
2017-01-31 18:04           ` Dave Hansen
2017-01-31 19:14             ` David Nellans
2017-02-01  6:56             ` Anshuman Khandual
2017-02-01  6:46           ` Anshuman Khandual
2017-02-01  6:40         ` Anshuman Khandual
2017-01-30  3:35 ` [RFC V2 04/12] mm: Change mbind(MPOL_BIND) implementation for CDM nodes Anshuman Khandual
2017-01-30  3:35 ` [RFC V2 05/12] cpuset: Add cpuset_inc() inside cpuset_init() Anshuman Khandual
2017-01-30 17:36   ` Dave Hansen
2017-01-30 20:30   ` Mel Gorman
2017-01-31 14:22     ` [RFC] cpuset: Enable changing of top_cpuset's mems_allowed nodemask Anshuman Khandual
2017-01-31 16:00       ` Mel Gorman
2017-02-01  7:31         ` Anshuman Khandual
2017-02-01  8:53           ` Michal Hocko
2017-02-01  9:18           ` Mel Gorman
2017-01-31 14:36     ` [RFC V2 05/12] cpuset: Add cpuset_inc() inside cpuset_init() Vlastimil Babka
2017-01-31 15:30       ` Anshuman Khandual
2017-01-30  3:35 ` [RFC V2 06/12] mm: Exclude CDM nodes from task->mems_allowed and root cpuset Anshuman Khandual
2017-01-30  3:35 ` [RFC V2 07/12] mm: Ignore cpuset enforcement when allocation flag has __GFP_THISNODE Anshuman Khandual
2017-01-30  3:35 ` [RFC V2 08/12] mm: Add new VMA flag VM_CDM Anshuman Khandual
2017-01-30 18:52   ` Jerome Glisse
2017-01-31  4:22     ` Anshuman Khandual
2017-01-31  6:05       ` Jerome Glisse
2017-01-30  3:35 ` [RFC V2 09/12] mm: Exclude CDM marked VMAs from auto NUMA Anshuman Khandual
2017-01-30  3:35 ` [RFC V2 10/12] mm: Ignore madvise(MADV_MERGEABLE) request for VM_CDM marked VMAs Anshuman Khandual
2017-01-30  3:35 ` [RFC V2 11/12] mm: Tag VMA with VM_CDM flag during page fault Anshuman Khandual
2017-01-30 17:51   ` Dave Hansen
2017-01-31  5:10     ` Anshuman Khandual
2017-01-31 17:54       ` Dave Hansen
2017-01-30  3:35 ` [RFC V2 12/12] mm: Tag VMA with VM_CDM flag explicitly during mbind(MPOL_BIND) Anshuman Khandual
2017-01-30 17:54   ` Dave Hansen
2017-01-31  4:36     ` Anshuman Khandual
2017-02-07 18:07       ` Dave Hansen
2017-02-08 14:13         ` Anshuman Khandual
2017-02-08 15:04         ` Jerome Glisse
2017-01-30  3:35 ` [DEBUG 13/21] powerpc/mm: Identify coherent device memory nodes during platform init Anshuman Khandual
2017-01-30  3:35 ` [DEBUG 14/21] powerpc/mm: Create numa nodes for hotplug memory Anshuman Khandual
2017-01-30  3:35 ` [DEBUG 15/21] powerpc/mm: Enable CONFIG_MOVABLE_NODE for PPC64 platform Anshuman Khandual
2017-01-30  3:35 ` [DEBUG 16/21] mm: Enable CONFIG_MOVABLE_NODE on powerpc Anshuman Khandual
2017-01-30  3:35 ` [DEBUG 17/21] mm: Export definition of 'zone_names' array through mmzone.h Anshuman Khandual
2017-01-30  3:35 ` [DEBUG 18/21] mm: Add debugfs interface to dump each node's zonelist information Anshuman Khandual
2017-01-30  3:36 ` [DEBUG 19/21] mm: Add migrate_virtual_range migration interface Anshuman Khandual
2017-01-30  3:36 ` [DEBUG 20/21] drivers: Add two drivers for coherent device memory tests Anshuman Khandual
2017-01-30  3:36 ` [DEBUG 21/21] selftests/powerpc: Add a script to perform random VMA migrations Anshuman Khandual
2017-01-31  5:48 ` [RFC V2 00/12] Define coherent device memory node Anshuman Khandual
2017-01-31  6:15   ` Jerome Glisse

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