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From: Benjamin Segall <bsegall@google.com>
To: Phil Auld <pauld@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <bristot@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Sched/fair: Block nohz tick_stop when cfs bandwidth in use
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2023 13:49:52 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xm26zg4r8bnz.fsf@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230622132751.2900081-1-pauld@redhat.com> (Phil Auld's message of "Thu, 22 Jun 2023 09:27:51 -0400")

Phil Auld <pauld@redhat.com> writes:

> CFS bandwidth limits and NOHZ full don't play well together.  Tasks
> can easily run well past their quotas before a remote tick does
> accounting.  This leads to long, multi-period stalls before such
> tasks can run again. Currentlyi, when presented with these conflicting
> requirements the scheduler is favoring nohz_full and letting the tick
> be stopped. However, nohz tick stopping is already best-effort, there
> are a number of conditions that can prevent it, whereas cfs runtime
> bandwidth is expected to be enforced.
>
> Make the scheduler favor bandwidth over stopping the tick by setting
> TICK_DEP_BIT_SCHED when the only running task is a cfs task with
> runtime limit enabled.
>
> Add sched_feat HZ_BW (off by default) to control this behavior.
>
> Signed-off-by: Phil Auld <pauld@redhat.com>
> Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>
> Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
> Cc: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
> Cc: Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>
> Cc: Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>
> Cc: Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>
> Cc: Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>
> ---
>  kernel/sched/fair.c     | 33 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-
>  kernel/sched/features.h |  2 ++
>  2 files changed, 34 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>
> diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> index 373ff5f55884..880eadfac330 100644
> --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
> +++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> @@ -6139,6 +6139,33 @@ static void __maybe_unused unthrottle_offline_cfs_rqs(struct rq *rq)
>  	rcu_read_unlock();
>  }
>  
> +#ifdef CONFIG_NO_HZ_FULL
> +/* called from pick_next_task_fair() */
> +static void sched_fair_update_stop_tick(struct rq *rq, struct task_struct *p)
> +{
> +	struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq = task_cfs_rq(p);
> +	int cpu = cpu_of(rq);
> +
> +	if (!sched_feat(HZ_BW) || !cfs_bandwidth_used())
> +		return;
> +
> +	if (!tick_nohz_full_cpu(cpu))
> +		return;
> +
> +	if (rq->nr_running != 1 || !sched_can_stop_tick(rq))
> +		return;
> +
> +	/*
> +	 *  We know there is only one task runnable and we've just picked it. The
> +	 *  normal enqueue path will have cleared TICK_DEP_BIT_SCHED if we will
> +	 *  be otherwise able to stop the tick. Just need to check if we are using
> +	 *  bandwidth control.
> +	 */
> +	if (cfs_rq->runtime_enabled)
> +		tick_nohz_dep_set_cpu(cpu, TICK_DEP_BIT_SCHED);
> +}
> +#endif

So from a CFS_BANDWIDTH pov runtime_enabled && nr_running == 1 seems
fine. But working around sched_can_stop_tick instead of with it seems
sketchy in general, and in an edge case like "migrate a task onto the
cpu and then off again" you'd get sched_update_tick_dependency resetting
the TICK_DEP_BIT and then not call PNT (ie a task wakes up onto this cpu
without preempting, and then another cpu goes idle and pulls it, causing
this cpu to go into nohz_full).

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-06-22 20:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-22 13:27 [PATCH] Sched/fair: Block nohz tick_stop when cfs bandwidth in use Phil Auld
2023-06-22 13:44 ` Phil Auld
2023-06-22 14:22 ` Steven Rostedt
2023-06-22 15:44   ` Phil Auld
2023-06-22 20:49 ` Benjamin Segall [this message]
2023-06-22 21:37   ` Phil Auld
2023-06-23 13:08     ` Phil Auld
2023-06-23 18:59       ` Benjamin Segall
2023-06-23 19:59         ` Phil Auld

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