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From: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
To: liuhangbin@gmail.com
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, ja@ssi.bg, marcelo.leitner@gmail.com,
	dsahern@gmail.com, edumazet@google.com
Subject: Re: [PATCHv2 net] ipv6/route: should not update neigh confirm time during PMTU update
Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2019 11:58:18 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191203.115818.1902434596879929857.davem@davemloft.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191203102534.GK18865@dhcp-12-139.nay.redhat.com>

From: Hangbin Liu <liuhangbin@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2019 18:25:35 +0800

> 
> Hi David,
> On Tue, Dec 03, 2019 at 06:15:36PM +0800, Hangbin Liu wrote:
>> On Mon, Dec 02, 2019 at 06:47:04PM -0800, David Miller wrote:
>> > From: Hangbin Liu <liuhangbin@gmail.com>
>> > Date: Tue,  3 Dec 2019 10:11:37 +0800
>> > 
>> > > Fix it by removing the dst_confirm_neigh() in __ip6_rt_update_pmtu() as
>> > > there is no two-way communication during PMTU update.
>> > > 
>> > > v2: remove dst_confirm_neigh directly as David Miller pointed out.
>> > 
>> > That's not what I said.
>> > 
>> > I said that this interface is designed for situations where the neigh
>> > update is appropriate, and that's what happens for most callers _except_
>> > these tunnel cases.
>> > 
>> > The tunnel use is the exception and invoking the interface
>> > inappropriately.
>> > 
>> > It is important to keep the neigh reachability fresh for TCP flows so
>> > you cannot remove this dst_confirm_neigh() call.
> 
> I have one question here. Since we have the .confirm_neigh fuction in
> struct dst_ops. How about do a dst->ops->confirm_neigh() separately after
> dst->ops->update_pmtu()? Why should we mix the confirm_neigh() in
> update_pmtu(), like ip6_rt_update_pmtu()?

Two indirect calls which have high cost due to spectre mitigation?

  reply	other threads:[~2019-12-03 19:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-22  6:19 [PATCH net] ipv6/route: only update neigh confirm time if pmtu changed Hangbin Liu
2019-11-22 18:04 ` David Miller
2019-11-26  9:17   ` Hangbin Liu
2019-12-03  2:11 ` [PATCHv2 net] ipv6/route: should not update neigh confirm time during PMTU update Hangbin Liu
2019-12-03  2:47   ` David Miller
2019-12-03 10:15     ` Hangbin Liu
2019-12-03 10:25       ` Hangbin Liu
2019-12-03 19:58         ` David Miller [this message]
2019-12-10  3:36           ` Hangbin Liu
2019-12-10 17:00             ` Guillaume Nault
2019-12-18 11:53   ` [PATCH net-next 0/8] disable neigh update for tunnels during pmtu update Hangbin Liu
2019-12-18 11:53     ` [PATCH net-next 1/8] net: add bool confirm_neigh parameter for dst_ops.update_pmtu Hangbin Liu
2019-12-18 11:53     ` [PATCH net-next 2/8] ip6_gre: do not confirm neighbor when do pmtu update Hangbin Liu
2019-12-18 11:53     ` [PATCH net-next 3/8] gtp: " Hangbin Liu
2019-12-18 11:53     ` [PATCH net-next 4/8] net/dst: add new function skb_dst_update_pmtu_no_confirm Hangbin Liu
2019-12-18 11:53     ` [PATCH net-next 5/8] tunnel: do not confirm neighbor when do pmtu update Hangbin Liu
2019-12-19 17:47       ` Guillaume Nault
2019-12-20  2:36         ` Hangbin Liu
2019-12-18 11:53     ` [PATCH net-next 6/8] vti: " Hangbin Liu
2019-12-18 11:53     ` [PATCH net-next 7/8] sit: " Hangbin Liu
2019-12-18 11:53     ` [PATCH net-next 8/8] net/dst: do not confirm neighbor for vxlan and geneve " Hangbin Liu
2019-12-19 17:49       ` Guillaume Nault
2019-12-18 12:01     ` [PATCH net-next 0/8] disable neigh update for tunnels during " Hangbin Liu
2019-12-19 17:57       ` Guillaume Nault
2019-12-20  2:48         ` Hangbin Liu
2019-12-19 17:53     ` Guillaume Nault
2019-12-20  3:25     ` [PATCHv4 net " Hangbin Liu
2019-12-20  3:25       ` [PATCHv4 net 1/8] net: add bool confirm_neigh parameter for dst_ops.update_pmtu Hangbin Liu
2019-12-20  3:25       ` [PATCHv4 net 2/8] ip6_gre: do not confirm neighbor when do pmtu update Hangbin Liu
2019-12-20  3:25       ` [PATCHv4 net 3/8] gtp: " Hangbin Liu
2019-12-21 18:35         ` Guillaume Nault
2019-12-20  3:25       ` [PATCHv4 net 4/8] net/dst: add new function skb_dst_update_pmtu_no_confirm Hangbin Liu
2019-12-20  3:25       ` [PATCHv4 net 5/8] tunnel: do not confirm neighbor when do pmtu update Hangbin Liu
2019-12-21 18:43         ` Guillaume Nault
2019-12-20  3:25       ` [PATCHv4 net 6/8] vti: " Hangbin Liu
2019-12-21 18:30         ` Guillaume Nault
2019-12-20  3:25       ` [PATCHv4 net 7/8] sit: " Hangbin Liu
2019-12-20  3:25       ` [PATCHv4 net 8/8] net/dst: do not confirm neighbor for vxlan and geneve " Hangbin Liu
2019-12-21 18:38         ` Guillaume Nault
2019-12-20 16:14       ` [PATCHv4 net 0/8] disable neigh update for tunnels during " David Ahern
2019-12-22  2:51       ` [PATCHv5 " Hangbin Liu
2019-12-22  2:51         ` [PATCHv5 net 1/8] net: add bool confirm_neigh parameter for dst_ops.update_pmtu Hangbin Liu
2019-12-22  2:51         ` [PATCHv5 net 2/8] ip6_gre: do not confirm neighbor when do pmtu update Hangbin Liu
2019-12-22  2:51         ` [PATCHv5 net 3/8] gtp: " Hangbin Liu
2019-12-22  2:51         ` [PATCHv5 net 4/8] net/dst: add new function skb_dst_update_pmtu_no_confirm Hangbin Liu
2019-12-22  2:51         ` [PATCHv5 net 5/8] tunnel: do not confirm neighbor when do pmtu update Hangbin Liu
2019-12-22  2:51         ` [PATCHv5 net 6/8] vti: " Hangbin Liu
2019-12-22  2:51         ` [PATCHv5 net 7/8] sit: " Hangbin Liu
2019-12-22  2:51         ` [PATCHv5 net 8/8] net/dst: do not confirm neighbor for vxlan and geneve " Hangbin Liu
2019-12-22 22:10         ` [PATCHv5 net 0/8] disable neigh update for tunnels during " Guillaume Nault
2019-12-25  6:30         ` David Miller

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